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re: Buy a modern ‘collector’ car?

Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:23 pm to
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Several people are stuck with Mazda Miatas and Buick Reattas who had the same thought process.


Mazda Miata of any period should never be compared along with a Buick Reatta
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:29 pm to
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I bought a 2020 Vette


You are going to be one of those Vette owners that tries to convince himself their Vette is special because it is 1 of 3 or 4 made in a year. Usually because it has a shitty build sheet.

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They already bring top dollar because of this.


No they aren't they are bringing top dollar because of all the delivery delays due to COVID and Chevy's laundry list of build issues so the demand is high. When everything is sorted and supply gets to where Chevy wants it to be the 2020s will likely be the year to avoid. If you have the first consumer C8 produces yeah you have something. If you have a mythical 2020 with an actual $59,995 MSRP that will actually garner some interest later.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:33 pm to
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Dodge Challenger Demon


Just read about this thing. That's definitely what I would buy.

Probably wouldn't drive it much. I enjoy, you know... being alive.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:34 pm to
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Mazda MX-5 ND2 RF


I own a 2020 and I damn sure never thought of it as a collector car.

Hell of a lot of fun though.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 10:35 pm
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:38 pm to
A fun car that doesn’t depreciate as quickly as other cars is possible. Appreciation... that’s just lucky.

$120k range - 911 50th.
$60k - e46 or e92, unique color

Low cost - ZR1, first gen, low mileage
Mustang - any Cobra R
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:43 pm to
The earliest Tesla Roadster you can find. I've seen a 2008 for 100K.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:44 pm to
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Dodge Challenger Demon


You can't get anything close to the claimed numbers unless you have the Demon Crate and use SS100 fuel at AHRA strips.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:46 pm to
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I own a 2020 and I damn sure never thought of it as a collector car.



It will be many years from now.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:57 pm to
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I bought a 2020 Vette. It was extremely low production and a great car. They already bring top dollar because of this.



Once Chevy finally ramps up production to cover demand the prices of used will go down.

Between Kung Flu and the chip shortage, and other things I'm sure, production has not been where they want it and it is in extremely high demand, inflating prices for used.
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:17 pm to
Chrysler Cordoba wif Corinfian Leatha
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:27 pm to
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I bought a 2020 Vette. It was extremely low production and a great car. They already bring top dollar because of this.


Sell it now if you’re interested in making money on it.


911’s are usually a safe bet for this sort of thing.


You can rarely find a 997.1 GT3 for under 100k. 996/997 turbos should also continue to appreciate.

You’re almost certainly not going to beat the market on car appreciation, but if you buy right you can get a really really fun car to play with on weekends and you won’t lose much, if anything. Maybe even make a few bucks.
Posted by Bryno1960
Off River Road
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:27 pm to
The Mustang GT350/350R ceased production in the 2020 model year. I’d consider one of those.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:29 pm to
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$120k range - 911 50th.


While more money my pick of the recent 991s would be a 997 GT3 or 991 GT3 RS both with a manual. People are buying more and more automated gearboxes likes the PDK because they are faster in basically every situation but as a car gets older you don't buy it for pure performance since the newer versions are faster, you buy it for nostalgia and nothing is more nostalgic than a manual

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e46 or e92, unique color


It is interesting that you mention unique color. In days gone by mu Imola Red E46 would be the resell king. In the last 5-6 years (I credit YT) low production colors and especially contrasting interior/exterior combos have started to take off. I think it has to do with the notoriety these individual builds get on the web. In the past, the resell combo for an 8 cylinder mid-engine Ferrari was always Rosso Corsa now if you have an individual build Fiarono Red (especially if it is matte) with a high contract interior and other bits that make it actually unique it is likely to fetch a premium.

I think the best Bimmer from the last 25 years to hold onto would be the E36 M3 Lightweight. The market is already exploded but it keeps going up.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:30 pm to
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but if I wanted a modern hotrod to hold on to, I’d get a Shelby Cobra with the 5.2 Voodoo flat crank motor and send it to fathouse for a twin turbo install kit. The car is a work of art (unlike the demon) and 1350 HP after the mod.


This is a terrible idea if you want to eventually sell it lol
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:30 pm to
Jeep Wrangler is the only answer
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14176 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:31 pm to
If you want a classic 911 for reasonable, 1983 SC's are the cheapest, or perhaps a standard 996.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:32 pm to
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You can't get anything close to the claimed numbers unless you have the Demon Crate and use SS100 fuel at AHRA strips.


I bet I could figure out how to get one of those into the nines pretty quick, but I'm not doing any of that. I want to be "grandpa" one day, not Steak Diane.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:36 pm to
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991 GT3 RS both with a manual.


RS was pdk only.


Honestly blows my mind seeing non-rs 991 GT3 builds with pdk. If you’re buying a GT3, how tf do you get pdk instead of the manual?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26146 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:46 pm to
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I bet I could figure out how to get one of those into the nines pretty quick,


All you would have to do is learn to drive the stock car well. It is a high 9s car out of the box on a properly prepped track. That being one prepped for that level of HP, not so much that it dead hooks and you lose wheel speed.

Dodge showed a 9.65 pass in the press when it debuted but it was a while before anyone matched that, bringing questions about it being a ringer. It took about a year before anyone matched or beat the 9.65 but someone finally got a "verified" stock Demon into the 9.5s. He did it at the House of Hook in SC which has one of the best-prepped tracks in the nation for street through pro mods and it usually has a great DA.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50521 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:53 pm to
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The Mustang GT350/350R ceased production in the 2020 model year. I’d consider one of those.



Have heard some stories of guys getting multiple warranty replacement engines in those. Apparently they don't like being tracked hard.
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