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re: Brenden Dassey wins appeal, panel of judges orders he be released

Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:42 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:42 pm to
Happy for the mental infant. He doesn't deserve jail. He deserves 24/7 care from professionals.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20912 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:43 pm to
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Apparently the judges based their decision on the slanted documentary and not the entirety facts of the case itself. Otherwise, they would have known he was likely guilty.


So is it OT policy now to question our judge's decisions? The OT was just telling me to have faith in our legal system.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35240 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:44 pm to
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You see the thing is you don't go to prison for being likely guilty. Thats not how it works.
I know I was being sarcastic because the poster implied that his questionable guilt was due to the "slanted documentary" not the facts. So for that to be true, the judges would have to have fallen for it too. That's absurd.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35240 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:45 pm to
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So is it OT policy now to question our judge's decisions? The OT was just telling me to have faith in our legal system.
Apparently I'm terrible at conveying sarcasm.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:48 pm to
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Apparently I'm terrible at conveying sarcasm.



I would have caught it if others didn't seriously agree with you
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:52 pm to
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So is it OT policy now to question our judge's decisions? The OT was just telling me to have faith in our legal system. 

If the judge or judges put or keep someone in prison, don't question them.

If the judge or judges let someone out of prison, how dare they!

That's the lock 'em up mentality.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35240 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:56 pm to
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If the judge or judges put or keep someone in prison, don't question them.

If the judge or judges let someone out of prison, how dare they!

That's the lock 'em up mentality.
I was being sarcastic, and only one person seems to think he's guilty.
Posted by CapperVin
Member since Apr 2013
10547 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:56 pm to
Awesome! Happy he can watch Wrestle Mania this yr
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36433 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:57 pm to
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A three-judge federal appeals panel has affirmed that a Wisconsin inmate featured in the Netflix series "Making a Murderer" was coerced into confessing and should be released from prison.


That's so crazy, cause I was told by the legal experts of this board that confessions made to some hick sheriff's deputies in bumfrick America are much more reliable than foolproof scientific testing. Must be a mistake by the three federal judges.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9813 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:04 pm to
You totally just misread and twisted the ruling. Also, that article contradicted itself. It was a 2-1 ruling, the State can appeal or retry and Dassey cannot be released until the State makes it's choice. This was the same reaction after that other judge made his decision almost a year ago. But Dassey is still where he belongs, in jail and he will stay there. It doesn't matter how much money his defenders keep sending to his legal team, it's not going to change the facts. The guy is a murderer..
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36156 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:05 pm to
Oh I know you were.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 8:07 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72329 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:06 pm to
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brmark70816




Jesus, are you still melting about this?
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:07 pm to
The cops 100% did fishy shite to ensure there was a conviction. Doesn't mean they're innocent of killing the chick. It is now leading to criminal(s) getting out. New trials should be done for both.

LINK
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9813 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:11 pm to
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Jesus, are you still melting about this


Yes sir, we meet again..
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72329 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:14 pm to
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Yes sir, we meet again..


You're going to be disappointed in the end, my man.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35240 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:25 pm to
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14 pieces of troubling evidence "Making a Murderer" left out or glossed over
OK let's see this troubling evidence:
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Leg irons and handcuffs were found in Avery's residence and in Dassey's
O man. He had some novelty items. So rare and troubling.
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Avery and his girlfriend had a less than rosy relationship at times
A couple has a less than stellar relationship. So rare and troubling.
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The car key unearthed in Avery's residence had DNA from his sweat on it, the prosecutor says
So they shady prosecutor says so, but the defense says it's not true.
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Dassey's mother said Dassey helped Avery clean his garage floor
They clearness garage floor? So rare and troubling.
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Pornography was recovered in Avery's residence
PORNOGRAPHY???? How dare he.
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The previous animal cruelty case involved a bonfire
Disturbing, but quite a big jump to human murder.
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Avery had drawn a torture chamber while in prison and was violent to other women
He doesn't seem like the most morally righteous man, and the violence is troubling. A drawing is hardly evidence of murder.
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Avery once opened his door "just wearing a towel" when Halbach went to his property previously
O wow. He answered his door with a towel on. He could have been naked instead.
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Avery called Auto Trader to specifically request Halbach the day she died
He probably had a thing for her. Maybe creepy, but lots of creepy people, the vast major aren't cold blooded murders.
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Avery called Halbach's cell phone three times, twice using the Star-67 feature to hide his identity
Again creepy, but murder is still a far leap from creepy phone calls.
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Avery gave a false name when he called Auto Trader
Probably part of the creepiness.
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The burnt bone fragments were mixed with steel tire belts
So a murderer tried to use accelerants? That could pertain to anyone who was the murderer.
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Avery's blood was found in six places in the Halbach vehicle, and DNA from his sweat was found on a hood latch, the prosecutor says
Again this is troubling, but it's off that all of the potential troubling details are prefaced with "the prosecutor says."[quote]Avery's rifle matched the bullet with the Halbach DNA on it[/quoteTroubling, but more troubling that this bullet was missed for months of repeated searches.

In summary, most of those things are ridiculous (PORNOGRAPHY). Some are just creepy, and the disturbing ones are all "prosecutor says" evidence. That's a terrible click bait article.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9813 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:26 pm to
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You're going to be disappointed in the end, my man.


Nah, I'm mostly over it. The documentary came out over a year and a half ago and nothing has really changed, both guys are still in jail. Public opinion is pretty much 50/50 now and the outrage has subsided. Both guys have gotten millions in legal relief and stellar defense teams, so I expect a big fight to come. There is a good chance they find a loop hole and get freed..
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35240 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:30 pm to
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Public opinion is pretty much 50/50
Link?

And I can believe 50/50 for Avery, but it would be highly disturbing if 50% of people thought Dassey was guilty.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72329 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:32 pm to
It doesn't seem like you're over it.

Also, you said above Dassey was in jail and will stay there. Now he'll be freed? Am I really that good?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35240 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:33 pm to
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There is a good chance they find a loop hole and get freed..
You know when that usually happens? When there is good reason they shouldn't be in prison. The court system makes it very difficult to get out, even when there is compelling evidence.
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