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re: Brendan Dassey's conviction has been overturned.

Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:32 pm to
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Our laws should prohibit interrogation of minors outside the presence (or without consent) of a parent/guardian or lawyer.

Minors aren't competent to enter into contracts but are able to waive their Miranda rights?



I'm pretty sure there are and the judge still ruled all of his "confession" admissible.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:33 pm to
Steven Avery's conviction needs to be overturned also
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:33 pm to
Too bad we can't throw those POS interrogators and DA in jail to make up for it.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:35 pm to
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Too bad we can't throw those POS interrogators and DA in jail to make up for it.


First, he needs to find that Lou Holtz looking motherfricking lawyer of his and beat the shite out of him.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88412 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:35 pm to
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had absolutely zero physical evidence implicating him in anything
That's not true.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:35 pm to


Avery needs to stay in, though. The stuff about him that wasn't in the doc was pretty compelling.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:36 pm to
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So does this mean him and his family have grounds for a lawsuit, because we know how that worked out last time for them.



Definitely in Brendan's case.

Ole Dirty Uncle 100% killed that chick though. They left a ton of stuff out of that show that make him seem wayyyyyy more guilty.

Such as him specifically requesting by name that woman victim come to his house more than once and her making complaints about his behavior towards her.

Stuff Left Out of the Documentary

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8. Avery once opened his door "just wearing a towel" when Halbach went to his property previously

There's evidence for this one, but it was never allowed in trial. This was one of Kratz' claims to People Magazine. According to People Magazine, "He cites Halbach's Oct. 10, 2005 visit to the property owned by Avery's family for a photo shoot for AutoTrader magazine: According to Kratz, Avery allegedly opened his door 'just wearing a towel. She was creeped out [ by him]. ... She [went to her employer and] said she would not go back because she was scared of him.'"

According to an Associated Press story from Feb. 14, 2007, the judge "would not allow Dawn Pliszka, an Auto Trader receptionist at the time, to testify about one of Halbach's previous encounters with Avery," said the story, continuing:

"She had stated to me that he had come out in a towel," Pliszka said while the jury was outside of the courtroom. "I just said, 'Really?' and then she said, 'Yeah,' and laughed and said kinda 'Ew.'"

The AP article said the judge would not allow the testimony to be heard by the jury "because the date wasn't clear and few details were known about the alleged encounter."

9. Avery called Auto Trader to specifically request Halbach the day she died

This is also contained in the same AP story. It said that the same woman, Pliszka, testified – this time before the jury – that Avery called her on Oct. 31, 2005 "to request the photographer who had been out to the property previously."

Angela Schuster, magazine operations supervisor, further testified that Halbach went to the Avery compound six times from June to Halloween to take pictures and also said, "She talked to Halbach by phone around 11 a.m. that day to tell her of the appointment at the Avery property," according to the AP.

10. Avery called Halbach's cell phone three times, twice using the Star-67 feature to hide his identity

According to a newspaper article in the River Falls Journal from Feb. 28, 2007, Luring Cellular company workers Bobbi Dohrwardt and Laura Schadrie testified that "Avery's cell phone made three calls to Halbach's cell, and he twice used the Star-67 feature that hid his identity." These calls came in about 2:30 p.m.

According to an Associated Press article from Feb. 28, 2007, "The third call was placed about two hours later." It "lasted 13 seconds," and the phone company worker "couldn't tell if it was answered or went into voice mail."

11. Avery gave a false name when he called Auto Trader

From the same AP story, "Prosecutors are trying to convince a jury that Avery lured Halbach to the family salvage yard by booking an appointment with the magazine, using the name of his sister Barb Janda, to take a picture of a red minivan that Janda wanted to sell."

Of course, this could be explained by the fact that it was his sister's car that Halbach was to photograph.



Also, his girlfriend that was all on his side in the documentary now claims he did it:

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In a shocking interview with Nancy Grace producer Natisha Lance last night, Stachowski claimed she now believes her ex is guilty of the shocking sexual assault, torture, and murder. “He’s not innocent,” she said.

“He threatened to kill me and my family and a friend of mine,” she said. “I was in a bath, and he threatened to throw a blow dryer in there, and he told me how would be able to get away with it. He’s sick.”

“He’s beat me all the time, punch me, throw me against the wall,” Stachowski continued, tearing up. “I tried to leave, and he smashed the windshield out of my car so I couldn’t leave him. I was at work one day, and he was up there spying through a window….He just started slapping me.”

During the trial, Stachowski said she publicly supported Avery because if she didn’t, he said she’d “pay.”

“It was all an act,” she claimed. “He told me how to act.”



LINK
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 3:42 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:36 pm to
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That's not true.



Do tell what physical evidence implicated Brendan in the murder...
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
12458 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:37 pm to
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Steven Avery's conviction needs to be overturned also


I don't know about this. The documentary was extremely bias.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88412 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:40 pm to
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Do tell what physical evidence implicated Brendan in the murder...
The chlorine all over one set of clothes that he tried to get rid of along with his uncle. There was lots that wasn't in the doc.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:40 pm to
What got me is they should've had a shite ton of blood in that trailer and as far as I know they didn't.
Posted by Titus Pullo
MTDGA
Member since Feb 2011
28567 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:41 pm to
Nice to see a court not scared to enforce the Constitution of these United States.
Posted by The Tom Arnold
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2015
1549 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:41 pm to
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le Dirty Uncle 100% killed that chick though. They left a ton of stuff out of that show that make him seem wayyyyyy more guilty.


Also his DNA being under the hood of the Rav4
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88412 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:42 pm to
Because she likely wasn't killed in the trailer. If Steven should have gotten off it was because the prosecution couldn't put forth a story that made sense.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:42 pm to
I wouldn't put it past the cops to frame Avery because you know they did it before.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:43 pm to
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The chlorine all over one set of clothes that he tried to get rid of along with his uncle. There was lots that wasn't in the doc.



Him and his mom have admitted to helping Avery cleaning the garage. They thought he was just cleaning it to clean it and there was no blood.

That is not tying them to the murder. That puts them on their own property using cleaning supplies.

Keep going...
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17242 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:43 pm to
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The chlorine all over one set of clothes that he tried to get rid of along with his uncle.


Was chlorine used in the murder? I honestly don't know.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
37182 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:43 pm to
Yeah?
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13527 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:43 pm to
So much Wrestlemania
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88412 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:44 pm to
It was used to clean up after. And Brendan's mom never admitted to helping clean it up.
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