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re: BR peeps - another day, another wreck on New Bridge Westbound
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:23 am to monsterballads
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:23 am to monsterballads
quote:you seem pretty content blaming DOTD and the "studies". the intention was never to study it and drop it; it was meant to be parlayed into design plans and construction. who you should be blaming are the residents and local governments of the surrounding parishes. they're the nancy grace viewers of our interstate system. the loop died, again, because these residents banded together and convinced their local representatives to pull the support in their parishes. further, some officials were never on board in the first place and willingly mislead people.
but don't worry, there will be tons of studies done to tell us how bad the traffic is
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:25 am to link
It's way more fun to blame DOTD though 
Your post is spot on.
Your post is spot on.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:26 am to link
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residents and local governments of the surrounding parishes
I am sure the recent proposal will easily pass now that it resides mostly in EBR.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:27 am to When in Rome
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The fact that the entire east bound section of the bridge was shut down for 6-7 hours due to a traffic collision on Friday is a joke.
Because of a fatality. It would not have been closed that long if the accident were not fatal. There are procedures that have to be followed in an accident that results in a fatality.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:41 am to link
We need something like this in BR. Put a bypass on top of the current interstate. Who cares if it cost a trillion dollars.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:46 am to doubleb
quote:i wasn't there, but i seriously doubt the short merge after the split was designed that way and everyone thought it was a great idea. it was a federal project, so everyone in the world reviewed the plans, and there's no way an obvious shortcoming like this, the only one on the entire eastbound I-10 system, was missed. more likely is that it was politically motivated, and there was a lot of pressure to stay out of the disenfranchised neighborhood below I-10 as much as possible...or, pressure to stay out of the big homes by the lakes.
The problems we have today were created over 50 years ago by the engineers, planners, and politicians who built the I-10 originally.
but now that it's built, closing the washington exit does not fix anything. in fact it would make things worse b/c people who exit there would remain on the interstate longer. there is a lane drop at that exit. you'd need to widen the bridge over the lakes to add another lane, preferably one all the way to the dalrymple exit and drop it there instead. that would give plenty of room to merge. but again i repeat, closing the washington street exit does nothing, people. stop suggesting it.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:53 am to doubleb
quote:I remember in the 60's when proposing the position of the I-10 bridge and the route through B R - all the merchants and store owners around Fla Blvd wanted to make sure that the LADOTD and FEDs wasn't going to elevate I-10 all the way to I-12 - afraid they were going lose business.
The problems we have today were created over 50 years ago by the engineers, planners, and politicians who built the I-10 originally.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:53 am to Motorboat
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Ya'll quit living in suburbia and maybe you wouldn't have this problem. Got to work in 2 minutes this am. Life is glorious
Shut it. Like a lot of us, I live in BR city limits and drive TO the country for work. Damned every major surface Street was a cluster frick this morning. Oh AND the train was stopped at Essen again.
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 9:54 am
Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:04 am to link
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i wasn't there, but i seriously doubt the short merge after the split was designed that way and everyone thought it was a great idea. it was a federal project, so everyone in the world reviewed the plans, and there's no way an obvious shortcoming like this, the only one on the entire eastbound I-10 system, was missed. more likely is that it was politically motivated, and there was a lot of pressure to stay out of the disenfranchised neighborhood below I-10 as much as possible...or, pressure to stay out of the big homes by the lakes. but now that it's built, closing the washington exit does not fix anything. in fact it would make things worse b/c people who exit there would remain on the interstate longer. there is a lane drop at that exit. you'd need to widen the bridge over the lakes to add another lane, preferably one all the way to the dalrymple exit and drop it there instead. that would give plenty of room to merge. but again i repeat, closing the washington street exit does nothing, people. stop suggesting it.
There was no regard for the neighborhoods like there is now. They simply bulldozed their way across town as they saw fit. The engineers and planners had no clue.
As for closing Washington Street exit it makes complete sense if you look at the big picture. I'd close it down as well as the Perkins road exits and entrance ramp. It would allow for a wider main thoroughfare.
Of course I'd upgrade Acadian and the Dalrymple Exits when I closed down Perkins and Washington.
You don't need exits/entrances every half mile or so.
Yes widening the interstate over the lakes is a good idea.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:53 am to sec13rowBBseat28
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Who cares if it cost a trillion dollars.
Well, if that thought process was valid, we could just build 4 or 5 more river crossings. There's just one problem. No contractor will ever agree to do work for free. The State can't afford to build one new crossing. Without private investors, it won't happen.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 11:00 am to Boudreaux35
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Well, if that thought process was valid, we could just build 4 or 5 more river crossings.
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 11:03 am to link
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you seem pretty content blaming DOTD and the "studies". the intention was never to study it and drop it; it was meant to be parlayed into design plans and construction. who you should be blaming are the residents and local governments of the surrounding parishes. they're the nancy grace viewers of our interstate system. the loop died, again, because these residents banded together and convinced their local representatives to pull the support in their parishes. further, some officials were never on board in the first place and willingly mislead people.
This. The "studies" are part of the process, per federal and often state laws. You can't just start building roads.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 11:34 am to Ghostfacedistiller
75% of the problem are the moron drivers in this town driving ultra-aggressively, the ones swerving in and out of lanes every other second trying to live out their NASCAR dreams on I-10 while driving 15+ mph over the speed limit. No turn signals, no courtesy to the people around them, just the me first frick the rest of you attitude is a major problem here and none of the local law agencies bust a-hole drivers anymore. Very rare to see LSP, EBRSO, or BRPD patrolling I10/12 anymore.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:26 pm to heypaul
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the highway safety commission should heavily fine BR every damn day for a substandard interstate/hwy system!
I don't think that the city owns that stretch of I-10. Isn't it a state-owned highway? If so, blame DOTD and not BR city government for the problems. The bottom line is that commercial big rigs have no business on that bridge or driving through the center of town. It seems like 90% of the time there is a wreck on the bridge, there is a big rig involved.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:33 pm to Horsemeat
quote:I agree, but one accident on the interstate as a result of a bad/aggressive driver shouldn't damn near paralyze the entire city.
75% of the problem are the moron drivers in this town driving ultra-aggressively, the ones swerving in and out of lanes every other second trying to live out their NASCAR dreams on I-10 while driving 15+ mph over the speed limit. No turn signals, no courtesy to the people around them, just the me first frick the rest of you attitude is a major problem here and none of the local law agencies bust a-hole drivers anymore. Very rare to see LSP, EBRSO, or BRPD patrolling I10/12 anymore.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:48 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
I think the general concensus is that we need expedited action, and need to elect officials who share our sense of urgency.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:58 pm to TigerDonk
not sure if you're implying this, but the current mayor, kip holden, pushed very hard for the loop. he's been top notch as far as BR infrastructure and was instrumental in the green light plan.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 1:03 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
quote:correct. since the loop was going to use federal funds, it needed an environmental study. all of the public meetings and route selections a few years ago was all part of that process. the document, i think, was completed or nearly completed, viable routes were studied, cost estimates done, traffic studies done, etc., and it's just fricking sitting there. doing nothing. and it aint kip's fault. and it aint DOTD's fault. and it aint "the study"s fault. NIMBY's, brah.
The "studies" are part of the process, per federal and often state laws. You can't just start building roads.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 1:06 pm to link
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NIMBY's, brah
wonder how you'd feel if it was going through your yard?
Posted on 2/3/15 at 1:07 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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The bottom line is that commercial big rigs have no business on that bridge
People going from college dr. to bluebonnet are the ones that have no need to get on the interstate but that's how Baton Rouge operates
They can't get anywhere without getting on the interstate
Just part of the local culture it seems
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