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re: BR is possibly getting a new MS River Bridge

Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:36 am to
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:36 am to
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What's the over/under on number of politicians and contractors in jail before the bridge is completed?



20.

I am being facetious but dang I would love to see a day where Louisiana can come into the 21st Century like everyone else has (well maybe not Mississippi )
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:39 am to
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This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 11:41 am
Posted by robertLSU
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
429 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:39 am to
A lot of the traffic is caused by the people and trucks passing through... Make it a toll. They don't live there to pay property taxes.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 11:40 am
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42075 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:40 am to
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I don't think they understand how NTTA works. There is no bond to fund D/FW toll expansion. It's all private and not up for vote. Bonds do not cover their roadways, privatization does. NTTA and banks.



That's maybe why I have been confused at their responses
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:41 am to

Hold on. Let me dig.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14856 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:42 am to
So where do you guys think would be the optimal place to put such a bridge?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42075 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:43 am to
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So where do you guys think would be the optimal place to put such a bridge?


I would push for a Loop/Bridge legislature. A bridge will not fix much without a bypass.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51881 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:43 am to
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So where do you guys think would be the optimal place to put such a bridge?

Probably connecting WBR with Ascension would be my best guess
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2560 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:44 am to
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Louisiana’s assessed property taxes are among the most favorable in the United States. In fact, they are the lowest when analyzing a few metrics. Residents of Louisiana pay the lowest median property tax in the country with a median assessment of $243. An average of 0.45% of each individual’s income is paid towards property taxes, which is also lowest in the nation. Finally, Louisiana property taxes are an average of 0.18% of the property’s assessed value. This is the lowest ratio in the country.


I don't know if you live in EBR or not, but these numbers are NO WHERE CLOSE to being accurate for Baton Rouge property taxes. Mine are not even in the same ballpark. Your stats include all of Louisiana so my guess is most of the state assessments are relatively low due to the fact that very few people actually want to live in rural Louisiana and if they do...they are not building massive homes because they realize that if they had to sell them...they'd be facked! Can you find me a stat on Baton Rouge property taxes and then come back?
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:45 am to
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A lot of the traffic is caused by the people and trucks passing through... Make it a toll. They don't live there to pay property taxes.


But yet we spend money in BR, buy fuel. ect.
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19938 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:46 am to
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And yet, at least half of them commute to BR 5 days a week / shop in BR on the weekends / go to LSU events.
yea, it's true. but they did not want a loop anywhere near them, and getting them to agree on the location of a new interstate will prove to be just as difficult as it was during the BR loop process.

the overwhelming sentiment is that they moved to get away from BR, traffic included, and they are not interested in helping solve "BR's problem". it's not a secret that NIMBY killed the loop.
Posted by robertLSU
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
429 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:47 am to
Do you own property there? If not then it doesn't matter. They're proposing a property tax not gas.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48674 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:48 am to
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dont quote me but i do not believe the property taxes go toward infrastructure. It goes to school districts.



Mark Cuban's taxes on his mansion in Dallas for your enjoyment.

Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:50 am to

OK, trying to get my ducks in a row. Here is an example of how NTTA bailed out/worked with Texas as a private entity

The $3.2 billion that NTTA paid for the right to construct, operate and maintain the Sam Rayburn Tollway (formerly State Highway 121) is currently being used throughout the region to fund many municipal and non-tolled county transportation projects. Scarce gas tax funds that would have funded the road’s construction are in turn used elsewhere for other roadway projects.

I short, NTTA works in concert with the State and TxDOT to build infrastructure while allowing TxDOT to reallocate at the same time. In turn, NTTA has the rights to collect tolls but is solely responsible for maintenance, construction and collection enforcement. LA needs to look to NTTA for advice.
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19938 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:50 am to
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Louisiana property taxes are an average of 0.18% of the property’s assessed value.
that's great for an average value from all of louisiana, but in baton rouge, you're off by almost a factor of 10. i own properties in various income levels in town, and they are all right at about 1%.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 11:52 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51881 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:50 am to
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the overwhelming sentiment is that they moved to get away from BR, traffic included, and they are not interested in helping solve "BR's problem". it's not a secret that NIMBY killed the loop

Oddly enough the suburbanites deal with the most traffic. We live close to school and work.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14856 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:51 am to
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I would push for a Loop/Bridge legislature. A bridge will not fix much without a bypass.

That's sort of why I was asking. Maybe start around Grosse Tete, cross the river at Brusly? But then how to connect that to I-10/12?
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15250 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:52 am to
better chance of that Asteroid destroying the earth before this gets built
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42075 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:53 am to
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OK, trying to get my ducks in a row. Here is an example of how NTTA bailed out/worked with Texas as a private entity

The $3.2 billion that NTTA paid for the right to construct, operate and maintain the Sam Rayburn Tollway (formerly State Highway 121) is currently being used throughout the region to fund many municipal and non-tolled county transportation projects. Scarce gas tax funds that would have funded the road’s construction are in turn used elsewhere for other roadway projects.

I short, NTTA works in concert with the State and TxDOT to build infrastructure while allowing TxDOT to reallocate at the same time. In turn, NTTA has the rights to collect tolls but is solely responsible for maintenance, construction and collection enforcement. LA needs to look to NTTA for advice.


SAO WITH THA JAMMMMMM!!!
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:54 am to
I can already see exposed PCV pipe everywhere
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