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re: Boy killed on KC waterslide was decapitated
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:31 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:31 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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10-15 minutes after decapitation
Well, during that time you're slipping into death, no you don't retain consciousness for the entire time...but you could very well be conscious for several long seconds after decapitation. For the rest of the time you may be able to hear, but that would be like hearing a distant voice within a very deep dream...
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:33 am to mizzoukills
I'll take that as a yes.
This post was edited on 8/10/16 at 9:34 am
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:35 am to mizzoukills
quote:
but you could very well be conscious for several long seconds after decapitation.
prove it for us.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:36 am to mizzoukills
quote:
For the rest of the time you may be able to hear, but that would be like hearing a distant voice within a very deep dream...
Alright, let's test this theory... you'll volunteer right?
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:36 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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What's frightening is that you believe that horseshite.
I hate agreeing with mizzoukills
But I do recall reading out a scientist doing experiments on people who got beheaded by guillotine by asking them to move their eyes after beheading...
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This made for quick and easy retrieval of the head by the executioner -- who merely pulled a lever -- after it was cut off. Picking up the head to show to the crowd was customary, and occasionally the executioner showed disrespect to the head as well. This was the case with Charlotte Corday, a woman executed by guillotine in France in 1793 after she assassinated the revolutionary leader Jean-Paul Marat.
After her head was severed, the executioner smacked its cheeks while he held it aloft. To the astonishment of the crowd, Corday's cheeks flushed and her facial expression changed into the "unequivocal marks of indignation" [source: Ernle, et al].
Corday was the first, though not the last, severed head reported to show the signs of consciousness following decapitation.
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This is what is most disturbing about the concept of consciousness remaining after decapitation; we may feel pain and experience fear in those few moments before death. This has been reported in a number of cases where consciousness appeared to remain following decapitation. Most recently, in 1989, an Army veteran reported that following a car accident that he was in with a friend, the decapitated head of his friend changed facial expressions: "First of shock or confusion then to terror or grief," [source:Bellows].
Both King Charles I and Queen Anne Boleyn are reported to both have showed signs of trying to speak following their beheadings (by executioners' swords, rather than by guillotine) [source: Maslin]. When he spoke out against the use of the guillotine in 1795, German researcher S.T. Sommering cited reports of decapitated heads that have ground their teeth and that the face of one decapitated person "grimaced horribly" when a physician inspecting the head poked the spinal canal with his finger [source: Sommering].
Perhaps most famously was the study conducted by a Dr. Beaurieux in 1905 of the head of executed criminal Henri Languille. Over the course of 25 to 30 seconds of observation, the physician recorded managing to get Languille to open his eyes and "undeniably" focus them on the doctor's twice by calling the executed man's name [source: Bellows].
LINK
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:38 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:Then don't. He's wrong.
I hate agreeing with mizzoukills
I read that same article. It provides some sort of proof for a few seconds, possibly even longer, but not anywhere near 10-15 minutes.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:40 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:
This is what is most disturbing about the concept of consciousness remaining after decapitation; we may feel pain and experience fear in those few moments before death. This has been reported in a number of cases where consciousness appeared to remain following decapitation. Most recently, in 1989, an Army veteran reported that following a car accident that he was in with a friend, the decapitated head of his friend changed facial expressions: "First of shock or confusion then to terror or grief," [source:Bellows]. Both King Charles I and Queen Anne Boleyn are reported to both have showed signs of trying to speak following their beheadings (by executioners' swords, rather than by guillotine) [source: Maslin]. When he spoke out against the use of the guillotine in 1795, German researcher S.T. Sommering cited reports of decapitated heads that have ground their teeth and that the face of one decapitated person "grimaced horribly" when a physician inspecting the head poked the spinal canal with his finger [source: Sommering]. Perhaps most famously was the study conducted by a Dr. Beaurieux in 1905 of the head of executed criminal Henri Languille. Over the course of 25 to 30 seconds of observation, the physician recorded managing to get Languille to open his eyes and "undeniably" focus them on the doctor's twice by calling the executed man's name [source: Bellows].
but, but, but...first hand accounts are just myth!
LOL
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:41 am to NYNolaguy1
I heard the scientist said "Blink twice if you think Mizzoukills is a retard".
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:41 am to mizzoukills
quote:You said 10-15 minutes, homeboy.
but, but, but...first hand accounts are just myth!
Link us some studies verifying that nonsense.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:42 am to WallsAllAroundMe
For 10 - 15 minutes after death your brain is still very active....
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:44 am to mizzoukills
quote:We're talking decapitation.
For 10 - 15 minutes after death your brain is still very active....
Link the studies.
This post was edited on 8/10/16 at 9:45 am
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:45 am to mizzoukills
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mizzoukills
Don't let it go to your head. You're like 25% right. 30 seconds =\= 15 minutes.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:49 am to mizzoukills
It's 10-15 seconds, not minutes, you dumbfrick- and that's probably not even true itself.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:51 am to mizzoukills
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For 10 - 15 minutes after death your brain is still very active....
By definition, death is the termination of all vital functions that sustain life.
Just stop talking.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:53 am to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:I kinda feel like that article tricked us a bit.
No kidding. A couple of days after a kid gets decapitated on your water slide, you say... "It’s dangerous, but it’s a safe dangerous now."
There's a blurb about the opening of the ride, and I have a hunch that those quotes weren't made recently but when the ride first opened.
Could be wrong though.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:54 am to Scruffy
"Horrific neck injury" or "catastrophic" is usually code for decapitation.
I don't know what would make it worse? For them to just come out and say it and endure the oohs and ahhs and screams. Or take this course and have several "sources" leak the information over a week or two.
Literally 100 people probably saw this happen. They can't unsee it. EVERY 18-20 year old park worker knows and probably 50-75 fire/EMS/LEO saw it for themselves.
One victim and two tarps?
Just horrible. Hell two women who aren't related were on that ride with him. They saw it?
Has it been said whether the boy came lose or the entire vehicle came loose and struck the cage? If the entire vehicle did not come loose, I can't imagine the horrible objects that caused those two women facial injuries.
I don't know what would make it worse? For them to just come out and say it and endure the oohs and ahhs and screams. Or take this course and have several "sources" leak the information over a week or two.
Literally 100 people probably saw this happen. They can't unsee it. EVERY 18-20 year old park worker knows and probably 50-75 fire/EMS/LEO saw it for themselves.
One victim and two tarps?
Just horrible. Hell two women who aren't related were on that ride with him. They saw it?
Has it been said whether the boy came lose or the entire vehicle came loose and struck the cage? If the entire vehicle did not come loose, I can't imagine the horrible objects that caused those two women facial injuries.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:55 am to mizzoukills
quote:
For 10 - 15 minutes after death your brain is still very active....
this is probably true...but for all deaths not just being decapitated
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:56 am to chinhoyang
"Safe dangerous"???!!! WTF???
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:59 am to ManBearTiger
Exactly. Lack of oxygen to the brain is a BIG problem. No way 15 minutes can pass from and the brain still be viable.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 10:01 am to chinhoyang
I hope this accident doesn't show up on LiveLeak
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