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re: Boy Attacked and killed by a pit bull
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:47 am to boddagetta
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:47 am to boddagetta
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I won't go as far as to say the 6 year old deserved it
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but the 6 year old would be alive today if he/she would not have jumped the fence into the dog owner's yard
Well that is exactly what you just said. I take it you have never had a 6 year old child.
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his falls on the parent for not keeping an eye on her child or teaching the child not to go in other people's fenced in yards.
See above. It also might fall, just a tad, on the short-dicked tough guy that needed a pit in his yard instead of, oh I don't know, a Collie?
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:48 am to Artie Rome
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Why do you love these dogs so much? Why can't you have a lab like everyone else? Its a serious question. What do these known time-bombs offer that you can't find in another breed?
You're kidding, right? I feel like you are trolling me at this point.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:49 am to Barf
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You're kidding, right?
No. Tell me why you need to own a breed that is disproportionately aggressive and known to attack kids and not stop until they are dead.
I'm not trolling. Give me one reason.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:50 am to QuiteTheConundrum
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In before some fricking idiots say something about the kid being in the dogs territory and blaming the parent.
My golden retriever wouldn't do this shite.
From a non-Pit defender, who gives a shite? If the dogs in its own fenced in yard, no wrong was done.
Sad for the kid though.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 11:58 am
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:52 am to Artie Rome
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If they had Beware of Dog and No Trespass signs, that kid's family is most likely fricked as a matter of law
False. You can't sign away liability.
You can in Florida
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:52 am to Artie Rome
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See above. It also might fall, just a tad, on the short-dicked tough guy that needed a pit in his yard instead of, oh I don't know, a Collie?
What we have here is someone who's opinion has far surpassed their education.
Zeal is not a measure of merit, no matter how much you want it to be.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:54 am to Barf
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What we have here is someone who's opinion has far surpassed their education.
Answer the question.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:55 am to tigerpimpbot
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You can in Florida
You can do a lot of shite in Florida.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:56 am to Artie Rome
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Artie Rome
Do you ever just sit and think, "Maybe I don't have to argue every fricking point made on God's green earth."
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:57 am to Artie Rome
Like I said, the tender years doctrine would get that to a jury, but you can absolutely be free from liability from a trespasser injuring themselves on your property with posted no trespass signs. I would suspect there are many states that follow this rule as well. Liability/duty owed depends on the person's status on the property, business or private invitee, trespasser, etc.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:58 am to Barf
Good point. The real problem here is this new BS attitude parents have about responsibility. "It's not my fault I allowed my child to climb into my neighbors yard!" "It can't be my child's fault, he's not a bully, he's just misunderstood!" it's a very sad story, but this isn't just a Pit Bull problem. The dog has a territory to guard, that is HIS property, many other breeds would react in a similar manner, but because it's a Pit Bull it gets news coverage. My neighbor growing up had a dalmation, we knew as kids that if we went into that yard, we were fricked, I never once went near that fence. Too many parents out there blaming other people for their own irresponsibility.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:58 am to LNCHBOX
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Do you ever just sit and think, "Maybe I don't have to argue every fricking point made on God's green earth."
It's one thread. I have a real problem with pit-bulls. Do you not see a difference between me being involved in one thread and you arguing the matrix of personal finances and every other thing that gets in my craw?
Nice try though.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:00 pm to cooLStorybreaUx
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The dog has a territory to guard, that is HIS property
Dogs have property ownership rights? That's a new one to me.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:01 pm to cooLStorybreaUx
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Too many parents out there blaming other people for their own irresponsibility.
Get back to me when your 6 year old gets eaten by a dog, tough guy.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:01 pm to Artie Rome
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It's one thread.
Today it's one thread.
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Do you not see a difference between me being involved in one thread and you arguing the matrix of personal finances and every other thing that gets in my craw?
If today was the only time you've ever taken up every other post on a page, maybe.
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Nice try though.
It was. You're a hypocrite. It's OK though. I don't judge you for it.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:01 pm to Artie Rome
This thread is hilarious, and so many people are assuming that this dog attacked and killed a kid for shits and giggles. Could that be? Sure. Could it also have been provoked by the kid(s)? Of course. But instead of worrying about what actually happened, people are in here acting like every pit bull is an a-hole dog ready to kill babies for fun, and every other breed of dog is incapable of the same shite.
Like this:
So the owner is a "short-dicked tough guy" for owning a pit bull? Got it. And a collie can't attack/bite/hurt/etc. a child? Got it.
Some of ya'll are fricking ridiculous, man.
Can pit bulls be dangerous? Absolutely. But so can any other ANIMAL. All it takes is a split second for a dog to be pushed to a point whre instinct can take over and things can get dangerous.
As for people jumping all over others who say that the 6 year old kid would be alive had he not jumped the fence...there is nothing about that statement that isn't true. So sure, blame falls onto the kid. Since the kid is fricking 6, more blame falls on the parent. And of course, blame can also be put on the dog as well, but how much we won't know until details come out.
I'm curious. Would any of your (anti-dpit people) minds change on this particular story if it comes out that the kid was terrorizing the dog and it defended itself? Honest question..
There's a lot about this story that doesn't add up to me, and I feel like lots of information is missing. It says the kid was staying at (not visiting) his grandparents' house, but then that the mother was there and the one calling 911. And the whole thing about the kid(s) hopping the fence on the reg seems odd, especially when the neighbors aren't home and there is a dog there (nevermind even a pit bull). And she couldn't get to her kid? Or nobody else could? Just seems like a lot of weird info surrounding this.
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See above. It also might fall, just a tad, on the short-dicked tough guy that needed a pit in his yard instead of, oh I don't know, a Collie?
So the owner is a "short-dicked tough guy" for owning a pit bull? Got it. And a collie can't attack/bite/hurt/etc. a child? Got it.
Some of ya'll are fricking ridiculous, man.
Can pit bulls be dangerous? Absolutely. But so can any other ANIMAL. All it takes is a split second for a dog to be pushed to a point whre instinct can take over and things can get dangerous.
As for people jumping all over others who say that the 6 year old kid would be alive had he not jumped the fence...there is nothing about that statement that isn't true. So sure, blame falls onto the kid. Since the kid is fricking 6, more blame falls on the parent. And of course, blame can also be put on the dog as well, but how much we won't know until details come out.
I'm curious. Would any of your (anti-dpit people) minds change on this particular story if it comes out that the kid was terrorizing the dog and it defended itself? Honest question..
There's a lot about this story that doesn't add up to me, and I feel like lots of information is missing. It says the kid was staying at (not visiting) his grandparents' house, but then that the mother was there and the one calling 911. And the whole thing about the kid(s) hopping the fence on the reg seems odd, especially when the neighbors aren't home and there is a dog there (nevermind even a pit bull). And she couldn't get to her kid? Or nobody else could? Just seems like a lot of weird info surrounding this.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:04 pm to CocomoLSU
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I'm curious. Would any of your (anti-dpit people) minds change on this particular story if it comes out that the kid was terrorizing the dog and it defended itself? Honest question..
Nope. Bad parenting mixed with a volatile breed of dog would still be the cause of this tragedy if your hypothetical situation became true.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:05 pm to Artie Rome
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No. Tell me why you need to own a breed that is disproportionately aggressive and known to attack kids and not stop until they are dead.
I'm not trolling. Give me one reason.
Because people are free to choose whatever dog they want to own? Because pits often times make great dogs (even family dogs)?
I'm not even so much a pit bull defender really, but you seem to hate the breed and therefore feel like everybody else should hate it as well, and you refuse to see things any differently.
And IMO, pits sort of get a bad rep because of the type of people that often own them...so the reason you hear about pits attacking people more than other breeds is because I'd bet the ratio of shitty owners is higher for them than most other breeds. But I guess instead of looking at things logically, it's easier (and more fun) to see things irrationally and emotionally and just assume that all ______ are _____.
And the saddest part about this whole thread is that very few people are focusing on the real culprit here: the fact that this kid was unsupervised and hopping fences of un-home neighbors with animals. God forbid the fricking parent(s)/adults here should be held accountable for anything. But again, I guess it's just easier to jump on the breed of the dog and blame everything on that.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:08 pm to Artie Rome
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Tell me why you need to own a breed that is disproportionately aggressive and known to attack kids and not stop until they are dead
That's an unfair statement. They attack and kill adults too.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:10 pm to cooLStorybreaUx
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The real problem here is this new BS attitude parents have about responsibility. "It's not my fault I allowed my child to climb into my neighbors yard!" "It can't be my child's fault, he's not a bully, he's just misunderstood!" it's a very sad story, but this isn't just a Pit Bull problem. The dog has a territory to guard, that is HIS property, many other breeds would react in a similar manner, but because it's a Pit Bull it gets news coverage. My neighbor growing up had a dalmation, we knew as kids that if we went into that yard, we were fricked, I never once went near that fence. Too many parents out there blaming other people for their own irresponsibility
fricking Amen, man.
I knew a Doberman as a kid and he was an a-hole, and we were terrified of him, and rightly so. He attacked his owner on a couple of occasions. Same with a lot of Scnauzers I've come into contact with in my life.
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