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re: Bowe Bergdahl will be prosecuted for Desertion
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:00 pm to CaptainsWafer
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:00 pm to CaptainsWafer
quote:
Does he deserve death, no.
Would you care to explain your reasoning?
I don't think he will get the death penalty, hell I'm not sure he'll be Court Martialed. If the facts show he deserted his post and collaborated with the enemy, then hang his arse. Some of his own died looking for him.
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Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:02 pm to Scream4LSU
Cant believe we gave the people that had him 5 people for him..
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:05 pm to unclejhim
quote:
If the facts show he deserted his post
they do
quote:
collaborated with the enemy
he didnt
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:05 pm to Scream4LSU
The article says that no charges have been preferred.
The article says nothing about him being "prosecuted" for anything.
At this point in time, these questions remain unanswered.
Did I miss something, or is the statement that he "will be prosecuted for Desertion" premature at this time?
The article says nothing about him being "prosecuted" for anything.
At this point in time, these questions remain unanswered.
Did I miss something, or is the statement that he "will be prosecuted for Desertion" premature at this time?
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:16 pm to Champagne
Not sure what article you are looking at but the phrase "desertion charges" kinda lets you know that. Unless at some point those charges are dropped is it a stretch to say he will be prosecuted?
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:19 pm to Scream4LSU
I don't see anywhere in the article where it says that any charges have been preferred.
IF charges were preferred, they would be talking about the charges on the news -- I mean the specific charges citing specific criminal statutes.
The headline of the article is misleading. A careful review of the body of the article leads one to conclude that no charges are preferred at this time.
It's not the OP's fault that the headline is misleading.
IF charges were preferred, they would be talking about the charges on the news -- I mean the specific charges citing specific criminal statutes.
The headline of the article is misleading. A careful review of the body of the article leads one to conclude that no charges are preferred at this time.
It's not the OP's fault that the headline is misleading.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:20 pm to USMCTiger03
Bowe knows desertion
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:25 pm to ALT F4
The Army will buckle on this if Obama is against it. The decision-makers in the Army care about one thing - getting their next star. And that means currying favor on Capitol Hill and 1600 Pennsylvania. I'll be surprised if this ever comes to anything.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:27 pm to Champagne
It won't be a statute it will be an Article 85 under UCMJ.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:30 pm to unclejhim
I don't think he deserves the death penalty because he didn't collaborate with the enemy directly causing deaths of American soldiers. While his actions ended up causing the loss of life, I don't think that was his intent. I compare it to negligent homicide and first degree murder.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:41 pm to Scream4LSU
Weren't there reports that he'd mailed home personal items shortly before his disappearance? Didn't he ask his squad leader or platoon sergeant what would happen if he went outside the wire without his weapon and Kevlar? It all sounded pre-planned, if not necessarily well thought out, to me. That's desertion in my book.
On the other hand, based on media reports (and that's all most of us have to rely on, so save the "liberal MSM" bullshite), he was basically a model citizen growing up. Nobody had a bad word to say about him.
This guy might be a nutcase or maybe on drugs, but it sounds like he willingly abandoned his post and put his teammates at risk. He deserves to be held accountable for his actions, but should receive consideration for any mitigating circumstances in his defense.
On the other hand, based on media reports (and that's all most of us have to rely on, so save the "liberal MSM" bullshite), he was basically a model citizen growing up. Nobody had a bad word to say about him.
This guy might be a nutcase or maybe on drugs, but it sounds like he willingly abandoned his post and put his teammates at risk. He deserves to be held accountable for his actions, but should receive consideration for any mitigating circumstances in his defense.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:44 pm to Scream4LSU
Can we get the 5 terrorists back that we traded for this POS?
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:44 pm to Scream4LSU
Article 85 is a criminal statute, right?
If he were charged under Article 85, the news would state that.
If you can find something somewhere indicating that anybody's been charged under Article 85, please post. Things may be moving fast on this matter. More concrete info could break at any time, seems to me.
Thanks.
If he were charged under Article 85, the news would state that.
If you can find something somewhere indicating that anybody's been charged under Article 85, please post. Things may be moving fast on this matter. More concrete info could break at any time, seems to me.
Thanks.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:46 pm to DthVllyDud
quote:
Can we get the 5 terrorists back that we traded for this POS?
Heck no. The Obama Admin is letting terrorists go left and right.
Hillary says we need to respect them, so, I guess she will continue the trend.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:49 pm to Mr. Wayne
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Death penalty? Not sure, would need to see all the facts.
only way he deserves death penalty is if his abandoning post directly lead to the death of another soldier. I do not know the story but if that is the case he absolutely deserves death
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:54 pm to redneck
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only way he deserves death penalty is if his abandoning post directly lead to the death of another soldier.
This is 100% what happened. Unit thought he was captured outside the compound while either on guard duty or something so put together several operations to locate and rescue him resulting in several deaths and several wounded. There were several indicators there was premeditation on leaving. Left all his equipment and had been having exploratory conversations with fellow soldiers on some "What If" scenarios of taking equipment and leaving.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:59 pm to Champagne
quote:
The article says that no charges have been preferred.
Did I miss something, or is the statement that he "will be prosecuted for Desertion" premature at this time?
The article states that "army sources" have said he will be tried for desertion. At this point that's all you're going to get until he's actually charged.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:59 pm to Scream4LSU
Well, US lives were lost trying to free him. I guess that puts him in a pretty bad spot.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:21 pm to The Mick
I can't believe we actually traded prisoners for this dirt bag. I thought we never negotiated with terrorists. That's what we keep saying everytime someone gets imprisoned in North Korea or snatched up by Isis.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:24 pm to Lakeboy7
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he didnt
You know this to be true??
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