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Boeing lands largest-ever 767 order in $4.2 billion deal with FedEx

Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:41 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:41 am
For you plane nerds out there...

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Boeing lands largest-ever 767 order in deal with FedEx

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Boeing landed its largest-ever order for Boeing 767s with a deal from FedEx that was announced Tuesday evening.

The cargo and package delivery company placed a firm order for 50 767-300F freighters with options for 50 additional 767s. The firm portion of the order would be worth nearly $10 billion at list prices, though big customers typically get substantial discounts.

Factoring in "standard discounts" based on pricing data from aircraft valuation firm Avitas, The Seattle Times estimates the order to be worth about $4.2 billion.


This will be replacing the A300, A310, and the old MD-10s in the FedEx fleet. They are also ordering more of the highly efficient Boeing 777s to replace some of their aging MD's.Looks FedEx's medium and long range jets will be almost all Boeing products by 2018/2019.

I've been fascinated by this company's air freight model since I moved to Memphis in 2011 and was able to watch so many of their massive jets coming and going from MEM. I was curious as to what they'd choose to replace their Airbus and MD jets.
Posted by DrunkenStuporMan
The Mothership
Member since Dec 2012
5855 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:45 am to
Still a smaller fleet of planes than the OT.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Still a smaller fleet of planes than the OT.



Well, that goes without saying.

Fred Smith only barely counts as "OT rich".
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Still a smaller fleet of planes than the OT.



Well, that goes without saying.

Fred Smith only barely counts as "OT rich".
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56723 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:48 am to
Really liked the MDs:


DC10
MD11
MD80 series
Posted by CuseTiger
Member since Jul 2013
9106 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:50 am to
quote:

For you plane nerds out there

Sitting in dfw waiting on my sister as we speak...

Granted these 767s will be for shipping, but its one of my favorite planes to fly. 2 aisles with 2 3 2 seating, pretty badass engines. America
Posted by CuseTiger
Member since Jul 2013
9106 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:53 am to
Flew an MD80 this morning msy-dfw, it'll be a sad day when those planes are completely gone from the route. Very comfortable as long as youre not in the last few rows
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Really liked the MDs:


I did as well. One of my favorite regional passenger jets is the MD-80 and the Boeing 717 (which is based on the MD-80). It's a smooth ride, and the location of the engines seem to reduce noise for most of the passengers. I imagine they are being phased out slowly for the new Bombardier (CRJ) C-series and Airbus A320. I know Boeing can't build the 737 fast enough these days, so that may mean a lot of domestic carrier will be getting the Airbus if they don't have orders for them already.

FedEx uses around 60 or 70 MD jets today. All of them will be phased out by 2018/2019 by either the long range Boeing 777 or these new Boeing 767 jets. Wikipedia has listed their entire fleet.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 10:01 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Granted these 767s will be for shipping, but its one of my favorite planes to fly. 2 aisles with 2 3 2 seating, pretty badass engines. America


I was on a 767 between ATL and CDG earlier this year. It's an older design, but still better than the A330 IMO as a passenger.

I honestly didn't know that the 767 was considered a good long range freighter until I read up on FedEx.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:04 am to
My stock portfolio must be getting a bit of a stiffie. Bo-eing!
Posted by GeauxTGRZ
PTal
Member since Oct 2005
4821 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:31 am to
quote:

DC10


That's a sexy plane.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Fred Smith only barely counts as "OT rich".


He's a nice guy. I've had dinner at his house a couple times. He graduated from my high school and I knew his daughter. Not well enough though.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178364 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:56 am to
The DC10 is a pretty beast but it was a death trap. Doors flying off... Engines flying off.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:06 am to
I know it's only cargo but.....

If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going.

Lol at Airbus because they had a deal with fedex to produce a cargo version of the A380 and that was a complete shite show and FedEx said frick it and cut their losses with shitty Airbus. Now Fedex is Boeing's slam piece now.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Engines flying off.



Technically, AA flight 191 was caused by maintenance mistakes....although I think the design of the plane made it more challenging to actually follow the procedures correctly for an engine drop. If I remember correctly, the "shortcut" procedure practiced by most airlines for engine replacement actually caused a lift to contact and weaken the engine mounts.

That was a big deal. The crash was witnessed by many and photos were actually taken of the plane as it went down. At the time the DC 10 was a very popular jet with almost all the main line carriers. I don't think its reputation ever recovered.

quote:

Lol at Airbus because they had a deal with fedex to produce a cargo version of the A380 and that was a complete shite show and FedEx said frick it and cut their losses with shitty Airbus


I think that with the phase out of the MD products, the A300s, and the A310s all by 2018.....FedEx will be all Boeing except for a handful of their tiny freight feeder turboprops.

It still would have been cool as hell to see those big, flimsy A380s take off and land at MEM every day. I read that they were very impressed with the range of the new twin jets like the big 777, and will probably never go with an A380 or the new variants of the 747. They can basically go from Memphis to Shanghai in a twin jet 777.

FWIW, UPS uses the 747 for those long hauls. They find it more efficient to not load it up with fuel and stop in Anchorage for their trans-Pacific routes. Advantage FedEx IMO.

I wonder if Boeing will ever make something to replace the 717. I think jets of that size will make up a lot of volume. Bombardier is going to own that market.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 11:29 am
Posted by Gorilla Fingers
Member since Jul 2011
1553 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:13 am to
That rep is a lock for salesman of the month.
Posted by Gorilla Fingers
Member since Jul 2011
1553 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:14 am to
Fancy company like Boeing was probably running $50 spiffs for every plane sold too, I bet. Lucky bastard.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178364 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:18 am to
Plus a DC10 made the Concorde crash.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Bombardier (CRJ) C-series


dat flight deck doe
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Plus a DC10 made the Concorde crash.




A part from an old DC10 made the Concorde puncture a tire.

The poor design of the Concorde is what made it crash.
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