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re: Birmingham Southern College may shut down

Posted on 12/18/22 at 10:28 am to
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 12/18/22 at 10:28 am to
Most Collège ratings now include job placement rankings and salary of the first 5 or 10 years. If all you are pumping out is liberal arts majors that don’t directly lead to good jobs and you are located somewhere like Bham, your rankings are going to take a drastic beating. I’m not sure how you are going to justify to students to pick you over day much higher ranked and much cheaper Auburn and Bama.

I can personally see going to a small school if the location is great. But as said, it’s fairly simple capitalism in that the location sucks.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 12/18/22 at 10:33 am to
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Most Collège ratings now include job placement rankings and salary of the first 5 or 10 years. If all you are pumping out is liberal arts majors that don’t directly lead to good jobs and you are located somewhere like Bham, your rankings are going to take a drastic beating. I’m not sure how you are going to justify to students to pick you over day much higher ranked and much cheaper Auburn and Bama.

I can personally see going to a small school if the location is great. But as said, it’s fairly simple capitalism in that the location sucks.

Agreed. How many people in 2022 are willing to spend 30k/year on a school in a ghetto area of Birmingham for a degree that doesn't really set you apart in any way?
This post was edited on 12/18/22 at 10:36 am
Posted by TomJoadGhost
Alabama
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 12/18/22 at 10:35 am to
Sad to see. I flunked out of BSC in the late 80’s. I loved that place but couldn’t balance the partying and studying.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 12/18/22 at 11:04 am to
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SMU is ranked #83 by Forbes.
Print the T-Shirts!
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/18/22 at 11:05 am to
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Birmingham Southern College may shut down


Good.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13708 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 11:29 am to
I wonder if that highlands college, church themed school, in Birmingham would take them over or merge, Birmingham-highlands college ? They seem to have big plans and money. I realize they are a Methodist school but maybe it’s time to change denominations for a Hail Mary I mean I’d probably also call Liberty U to see if they wanted a branch or even BYU, who could create BYU-Alabama college.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 12/18/22 at 11:36 am to
It helped give the world Marcy from Married With Children. That has to still mean something.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/18/22 at 11:41 am to
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I wonder if that highlands college, church themed school, in Birmingham would take them over or merge, Birmingham-highlands college ? They seem to have big plans and money. I realize they are a Methodist school but maybe it’s time to change denominations for a Hail Mary


This is actually a pretty good idea. I'm a little familiar with Highlands and they have invested a lot of money in rough neighborhoods such as Woodlawn as part of their ministry. I think they have something like 45,000 members across all their church campuses. I prefer our small church here in Louisiana that has about 150 people, but regardless of how you feel about megachurches, it could work.
This post was edited on 12/18/22 at 12:00 pm
Posted by titmouse
a tree branch above your car
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 12/18/22 at 11:47 am to
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highlands college


That almost certainly require highlands to become sacscoc accredited. I seriously doubt they want that.

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Liberty U


Maybe. But Libertys growth is online not maintaining expensive campuses elsewhere.

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BYU


Not feasible from an accreditation standpoint.
This post was edited on 12/18/22 at 11:48 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62897 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 12:11 pm to
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jb4


Would be more likely that UAB buys it.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35085 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 12:15 pm to
They need to relocate. Great school in a shithole part of Bham metro.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62897 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 12:16 pm to
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Great school in a shithole part of Bham metro.


So...relocate out of Birmingham?
Posted by roadkill
East Coast, FL
Member since Oct 2008
2081 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 12:18 pm to
I'm sad to hear this for sentimental reasons - my dad got his math degree there after WW-II using the GI Bill.

It was great academic institution as late as the 1970s - I worked w/graduates and they generally were in the upper performance quartile.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3908 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 12:19 pm to
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That almost certainly require highlands to become sacscoc accredited. I seriously doubt they want that.


An option would be to utilize the existing accreditation status and simply add the Highlands theological classes to the BSC curriculum. They could use it as a partnership and have representatives from the Highlands placed on board of trustees. I like out of the box thinking and believe it is an interesting idea that the poster had.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35085 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 12:19 pm to
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So...relocate out of Birmingham?


Out of Birmingham proper. They are surrounded by the hood.
Posted by titmouse
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Posted on 12/18/22 at 12:22 pm to
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An option would be to utilize the existing accreditation status and simply add the Highlands theological classes to the BSC curriculum. They could use it as a partnership and have representatives from the Highlands placed on board of trustees. I like out of the box thinking and believe it is an interesting idea that the poster had


That could definitely work. But I don't see how that significantly helps BSC's. Massive money problems.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3908 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 12:26 pm to
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That could definitely work. But I don't see how that significantly helps BSC's. Massive money problems.


True, it would probably require them to be invaded by Russia for the type of money they need to come in.
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
12085 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 12:27 pm to
Not sure why people are cheering the closing of a private college. Seems to me that we should demand the closing of public colleges not private ones. The problem with a lot of those types of schools is many were funded by Christian denominations. The colleges wanted the funding while rejecting faith doctrines of the respective churches. So, get woke , go broke. But, I would much rather have private college succeed rather than paying taxes for someone to get a gender studies degree at a public university while advocating communism.
This post was edited on 12/18/22 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3908 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 12:44 pm to
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I would much rather have private college succeed rather than paying taxes for someone to get a gender studies degree at a public university while advocating communism.


Sadly, either way, gender studies and communism are still top priorities at both public and private universities originally founded by Christian denominations.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13708 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 1:30 pm to
maybe they should call Steve Jobs widow or Jeff Bezos ex, they have been handing out random donations like Halloween candy. My guess is the state of Alabama will take over the school and run it as the only D3 public school in the state, maybe put it into the U of A system see UNC-Asheville or UVA-wise or just a stand alone like u of montevallo but I would be surprised if it gets mothballed since the school has some value for the state
This post was edited on 12/18/22 at 1:56 pm
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