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re: Biker Shootout at the Twin Peaks in Waco, TX
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:37 am to PurpGold 14-0
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:37 am to PurpGold 14-0
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Is this mother Russia? Actually this sounds closer to some Syrian shite.
Welcome to the police state. Seriously though, more and more this whole Waco story is starting to stink to high heaven.
First the cops claim the fighting broke out inside. Then it comes out that was a lie. Nothing happened inside Twin Peak other than bikers running back in trying to get out of the hailstorm of bullets flying in the parking lot.
Then they claimed they recovered 50 weapons, then that number jumped to 1000, then it went back down to 500.
They claim that the bikers opened fire on them, this despite the fact the bikers knew the place was surrounded by cops who completely outgunned them and even had armored cars.
Now pictures are coming out showing that the bikers who were supposed to be fighting outside were actually trying to leave...
... see the headlights on those bikes? If you're busy fight and shooting it out with other bikers and the cops are you going to take time to go start your scoot?
And why arrest everyone that was there? And then hit them with massive felony charges and a bail that ensures they have no way of getting out? There's no wat in hell that every single person there was shooting it out with anyone, much less the cops. Even if there really was some biker shootout, if everyone really was involved and really were firing at the cops, then we'd have a lot more people shot, including cops. but somehow not a single cop was hit.
And speaking of arrests, why arrest guys who were not even there and only rode up after the shite went down?
And where is the video of all this? There's video cameras everywhere nowadays. So where's the video of all these bikers shooting it out with each other and the cops?
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 9:38 am
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:41 am to PurpGold 14-0
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Is this mother Russia?
You're a real smart fella...
P.S. that's the president of Russia leading the line of motorcycle riders
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:43 am to Darth_Vader
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Then they claimed they recovered 50 weapons, then that number jumped to 1000, then it went back down to 500.
How do you not comprehend this still?
The initial report when the cops first got on scene was 50 weapons. This was before they processed the crime scene, which took nearly 3 whole days. It was such a large crime scene involving so many thugs that they had to close the entire marketplace on Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. Once they began their investigation the number rose. How this is not comprehended by you is amazing. heck, they even found a gun someone tried to flush down the toilet.
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 9:45 am
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:46 am to Darth_Vader
Are you trying to insinuate that the cops just showed up and started shooting bikers at random?
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:52 am to BeYou
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The initial report when the cops first got on scene was 50 weapons. This was before they processed the crime scene
Why release figures if you haven't processed the scene? Seems like the only reason to is to test the PR waters.
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Once they began their investigation the number rose
And then fell again.
Not saying these guys are all innocent but if you're just blindly buying in to what the police are reporting, then changing, without finding that somewhat odd then I don't have anything for you.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:53 am to terd ferguson
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Are you trying to insinuate that the cops just showed up and started shooting bikers at random?
I don't know what happened. Something did happen, and I'd not be shocked to find out of some (but for sure not all) bikers there did break the law.
All I'm saying is I don't think we're getting the whole truth of what went down. What i find disturbing is the facts of the story keep changing. The cops rounded up almost all the potential witnesses and have basically shut them up. They've rounded up people who were not even there. And now are not threatening anyone on a motorcycle with freaking snipers.
Set aside your bias against what you see as trashy bikers and if you're honest, you'll admit there's a whole lot about the story coming out of Waco that just does not add up.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:53 am to PurpGold 14-0
The exact same thing happens with every story the media reports.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:54 am to terd ferguson
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Are you trying to insinuate that the cops just showed up and started shooting bikers at random?
Nobody has said that at all, there are some of us who just are wondering out loud what really happened. It just seems funny that everything that was reported has been changed several times, and you know what they say about a constantly changing story.
Just sayin
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:58 am to Darth_Vader
The answer is simple. To de-escalate the situation so that no civilians are hurt and to keep the situation from escalating out of control. The real question is. Why didn't these 1%ers play out their little sock hop fantasy games away from the civilian pop.
They are in jail because they are stupid, childish and need to be babysat. For their on good and for everyone else as well.
If I were a doctor, lawyer, former police or any other supposed law abiding productive or professional citizen I would be very ashamed to have been involved in this silly childish behavior that had law abiding citizens hiding behind their vehicles to protect their families from this silly melee.
No rep. From former USMC and a dude that's been riding anything and everything for 40 plus years and doesn't need to be called a biker to live out some silly childish and immature fantasy to be called a bad arse or be an otherwise menace to a productive civilian society.
Shame. Shame. Shame. No rep.
They are in jail because they are stupid, childish and need to be babysat. For their on good and for everyone else as well.
If I were a doctor, lawyer, former police or any other supposed law abiding productive or professional citizen I would be very ashamed to have been involved in this silly childish behavior that had law abiding citizens hiding behind their vehicles to protect their families from this silly melee.
No rep. From former USMC and a dude that's been riding anything and everything for 40 plus years and doesn't need to be called a biker to live out some silly childish and immature fantasy to be called a bad arse or be an otherwise menace to a productive civilian society.
Shame. Shame. Shame. No rep.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:58 am to BeYou
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The initial report when the cops first got on scene was 50 weapons. This was before they processed the crime scene, which took nearly 3 whole days. It was such a large crime scene involving so many thugs that they had to close the entire marketplace on Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. Once they began their investigation the number rose. How this is not comprehended by you is amazing. heck, they even found a gun someone tried to flush down the toilet.
Do you honestly believe someone would try to flush a gun down a toilet?!? Come on now.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:59 am to terd ferguson
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The exact same thing happens with every story the media reports.
So that makes it ok?
Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:02 am to Darth_Vader
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Do you honestly believe someone would try to flush a gun down a toilet?!? Come on now.
No... but I believe someone trying to get rid of a gun when the cops showed up could wipe his prints off and toss the gun in a toilet.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:04 am to PurpGold 14-0
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So that makes it ok?
You really are dense. I'm saying that the media always runs with whatever info they think they have in order to make it "BREAKING NEWS". They would rather skip that whole fact checking thing as long as it gets ratings.
That doesn't mean it's some huge police conspiracy.
The bottom line is that none of this shite would have happened if a bunch of bikers hadn't turned a Twin Peaks parking lot into the wild west.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:05 am to Agforlife
quote:1984 if you want to change history change the story to fit it. Big brother will make it right in the end. Trust the truth will be what they want it to be when the smoke clears.
reported has been changed several times
Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:06 am to Darth_Vader
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Guess if the cops even see you on a scoot in Waco you're liable to being taken down by a sniper
They better stay away from Campus, kids on scooters are everywhere.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:07 am to Agforlife
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You realize that every lug wrench (tire iron) they find even if it's still in the spot it came from when they assembled the vehicle is being counted as a weapon right?
And you know this how? Or is that just one huge assumption on your part?
Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:08 am to terd ferguson
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The bottom line is that none of this shite would have happened if a bunch of bikers hadn't turned a Twin Peaks parking lot into the wild west.
So a fight starting is the wild west, damn
Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:08 am to terd ferguson
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The bottom line is that none of this shite would have happened if a bunch of bikers hadn't turned a Twin Peaks parking lot into the wild west.
And you know this because you've seen video or you've viewed the ballistic tests? or are you just speculating like the without doing any of that pesky fact checking?
You really are dense.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:10 am to terd ferguson
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The bottom line is that none of this shite would have happened if a bunch of bikers hadn't turned a Twin Peaks parking lot into the wild west.
Like I've said, I'm sure something happened between some of the bikers there. What that was, I don't know and neither do you. It's possible a fight broke out and some biker or bikers pulled a gun and started shooting. It's also entire possible a fight broke out and a trigger happy cop started shooting and then it was a chain reaction of other cops opening up thinking they were in a gun fight.
But there's no way in hell every single biker there was involved, especially the ones who showed up moments AFTER everything happened but for some reason are sitting in jail right now.
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 10:11 am
Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:11 am to Green Grass Miracle
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You realize that every lug wrench (tire iron) they find even if it's still in the spot it came from when they assembled the vehicle is being counted as a weapon right?
And you know this how? Or is that just one huge assumption on your part?
Mainly from past history and having it happen to me, but yes I'm making an assumption there, I believe an educated one, but an assumption none the less
You realize that every lug wrench (tire iron) they find even if it's still in the spot it came from when they assembled the vehicle is being counted as a weapon right?
And you know this how? Or is that just one huge assumption on your part?
Mainly from past history and having it happen to me, but yes I'm making an assumption there, I believe an educated one, but an assumption none the less
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