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re: Biker Shootout at the Twin Peaks in Waco, TX

Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:08 am to
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:08 am to
Would be nice if the government declared open season on these biker thugs and allowed good honest citizens to help cops take them out.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 10:11 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73690 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:13 am to
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I didn't say I dislike bikers.


Really?

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It's no different than the grown arse adults that dress in costumes to go to Comicon. ...

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You're wrong. No one will give a shite by the end of the week. A bunch of white trash meth heads got shot up by the po po. If they don't riot like Baltimore and Fergason, they lose all respect. And they won't because no one gives a frick. ...

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Looks like a bunch of homeless bums...

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OMGs(lol) are not the same as MCs
tomato tomato...


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Darths own link a few pages back said bikers were 67% more likely to be criminals than normal people
but the majority are law abiding citizens ...

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Then surely you've seen some illegal activity in the 20 years that you've been in this world? You cant sit here and say what happened in Waco was just a fluke. You cant sit here and honestly say that in your 20 years of being in this world, illegal shite isnt happening and the the majority of MC are law abiding citizens and there are only a few bad MC's that give guys like you a bad name...


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I get that. My question is why? If the majority of register motorcycle owners are law abiding citizens, they why are the Feds keeping such close tabs on them? Maybe because the majority of these MC'c are not law abiding citizens and have a history of being lawless thugs

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White trash bikers ole ladies and their white trash kids, absolutely. Wanna be affliction shirt wearing flat bill wanna be's and their hair Gel wearing spiked up hair kids, you better believe it. ...

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Why do the FEDS worried about biker middle aged fat fricks that ride motorcycles? I thought these so called gangs didn't do anything illegal and all they did was charity work and escort familis of fallen military members at funerals? .

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They arent thugs. They're middle class white guys that have real day jobs and like to play dress up on the weekend. ...

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Silly grown arse men on motorcycles watch too much TV these days. They all think they're Jax Teller. ...



Sounds like you have a visceral hate and loathing for bikers. To stick with mocking and trolling for 46 or so pages over 3 days now says a lot about what's in your heart. Not only do you hate bikers, it's very important for you to mock them from the safety of your computer.

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I just find it silly how serious you take yourselves and think your better than the rest of society because you wear leather jackets and 3 piece patches and ride in together like you're some kind of secret society.



Finally, this statement is very telling. Who here has said anything about us thinking we're "better" than anyone? Yet you throw this accusation out. Where does that come from. Sounds to me like at some point in the past you've had some sort of run in with a biker or group of bikers and it left you scared shitless and you feel a lot of resentment at being left emasculated by whatever happened. Whatever it was, I feel sorry for you because it's obvious whatever it was has left you scared and full of bitterness.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12693 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:17 am to
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Both are what COC's are supposed to do. Like I've said before, imagine each club is like its own nation. The COC is supposed to be a sort of U.N. For them.


and while i kind of get what you are saying, it still really hard to wrap my head around why "riders for jesus" and "hells angels" really have to sit down and chat about stuff.

if i was just a normal every day joe that likes riding my bike with friends and the occasional chicken bbq or fish fry for my church.... why in the world would i ever want to show up at one of these?

i surely wouldnt want to disagree with the powerful outlaws, so my voice isnt being heard. i dont want to be associated with them because im not a criminal. im not rolling in with guns and chains and clubs for the rumble, so i dont want to be around a fight.....

am i just being coerced because if i dont show up they will be mad at me? and they just want me to be there to say look at our inclusive group that does all this great work? its the only answer that makes sense to me. it feels like a bully using the good guys as a front for the group... unless im totally missing something.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 10:19 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:17 am to
If I owned a motorcycle but wasn't in a MC, would local MC's hate me for being a lone wolf?

Or is it just other MC's they don't like?

Posted by OGtigerfan73
Member since Feb 2015
709 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:18 am to
You might as well stop any questions about their sub-culture makes you a biker hater. How grown men who belong to a "club" and wear uniforms don't see how that could come off as strange and could lead to people having questions are so separated from reality that you might as well save your energy. Just to point out bikers have the right to do what they want. They can wear what they want and they don't have to answer any questions people might have. It's their business what they do with their time. You just shouldn't be so defensive when people don't understand you.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73690 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:20 am to
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If I owned a motorcycle but wasn't in a MC, would local MC's hate me for being a lone wolf?


No.

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Or is it just other MC's they don't like?



Well, it's very political. Some clubs get along, others don't.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:20 am to
well done Darth, well done.

I still didn't say anything about disliking bikers. I just find the whole act an odd way how you want people to perceive you.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 10:23 am
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11782 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:23 am to
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it still really hard to wrap my head around why "riders for jesus" and "hells angels" really have to sit down and chat about stuff.

if i was just a normal every day joe that likes riding my bike with friends and the occasional chicken bbq or fish fry for my church.... why in the world would i ever want to show up at one of these?


Because the Christian motorcycle club that I am familiar with isn't just a club, it is a ministry. They go to biker events and witness, hold church services, pass out bottles of water, do community outreach type stuff etc.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:23 am to
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How grown men who belong to a "club" and wear uniforms don't see how that could come off as strange and could lead to people having questions are so separated from reality that you might as well save your energy.


How is this different than a Moose Lodge or whatever those are called?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157988 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:24 am to
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it's very important for you to mock them from the safety of your computer.


Hmmm, it seems that violence is indeed inherent in the almighty MCs of the world.

He couldn't mock a "member" without getting beaten up or killed?

Nice sub-culture you got there. Carry on with your manly social club.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:24 am to
When I would ride for fun, me and my buddies just made up our own vests for the hell of it. It was pretty funny the looks we'd get. I actually used mine for a halloween costume recently, everyone loved it.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:24 am to
I don't think the Moose lodge wants to kill the Shriners becaue they wear certain colors on their vest.
Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
Meh He Co
Member since Oct 2010
14709 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:25 am to
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Darth_Vader

have you washed that greasy hair yet?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84435 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:26 am to
Just be careful. You don't want any of us getting the wrong idea...
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:29 am to
Of course, all deference to the true 1%ers. I have nothing but respect for you and your MC, no mud checks necessary when I'm on the road.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:31 am to
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and while i kind of get what you are saying, it still really hard to wrap my head around why "riders for jesus" and "hells angels" really have to sit down and chat about stuff.

if i was just a normal every day joe that likes riding my bike with friends and the occasional chicken bbq or fish fry for my church.... why in the world would i ever want to show up at one of these?

i surely wouldnt want to disagree with the powerful outlaws, so my voice isnt being heard. i dont want to be associated with them because im not a criminal. im not rolling in with guns and chains and clubs for the rumble, so i dont want to be around a fight.....

am i just being coerced because if i dont show up they will be mad at me? and they just want me to be there to say look at our inclusive group that does all this great work? its the only answer that makes sense to me. it feels like a bully using the good guys as a front for the group... unless im totally missing something.






OK here's a real simple answer. You are a Christian club, you wear a patch 3 piece or not doesn't matter. Your patch is similar in color to a 1% club. Said 1% club is having issues with some other 1% club and as most tend to do the see the color of the patch not the patch itself so it is in your best intrest to know these things if you want to wear your patch. Like I said that is a simple answer to a much more complicated thing.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 10:33 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73690 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:32 am to
Bandidos leader says there is no order to kill police

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AUSTIN (KXAN) – Most only know about biker gangs from television shows like “Sons of Anarchy.” It is a world most are not allowed to see, and those in these biker gangs do not usually talk about what goes on inside.

But KXAN Investigator Brian Collister has gotten exclusive access over the years to members of the Bandidos Motorcycle Club, who police said were involved in the deadly Waco shooting.

The event at Twin Peaks on Sunday was organized by a coalition of biker groups called the Texas Confederation of Clubs and Independents. The president of that group and main speaker at the event is an Austin-area Bandido member.

“We seen the guys with the M16s, had everybody on the ground,” said Jimmy Graves.

That was the scene when Graves showed up to speak on Sunday in Waco.

“We had one of the inside guys call me, tell me the only thing he knows is he heard a gunshot and he saw police officers running everywhere and bullets going everywhere,” Graves added.

As head of the Texas Confederation of Clubs and Independents, Graves said the meeting was intended to be a peaceful gathering for bikers to learn about their rights, and said he has no idea yet how the fighting started, or who started it.

But in his role as a National Officer of the Bandidos, Graves strongly denies claims by police that biker gangs involved have been ordered to “kill anyone in uniform.”

“How long do you think the Bandidos motorcycle organization would last if we went out shooting at cops?” he questioned. “President Obama himself would send out the Air Force, the Army, the Marine Corp and everybody and take us out. There’s no way. We respect the police for doing their job.”
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:34 am to
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Why are you so intimidated by us?


Now that's funny! "us"

Please get over yourself. Seriously, please! It's a message board. Yours not some outlaw biker that is, will, or ever has been in anything more than a shoving match.

"lifestyle"...yes, that's it, I am burning with jeaalousy over your posting all day about your hawg. Lol

And by all means, keep your dream alive that women see these clowns as a turn on in some way...geeez

As far the dead guys, hang with morons and you win moronic prizes.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:35 am to
I know this isn't a funny matter. But the way CNN is reporting this kind of comical.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157988 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:35 am to
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We respect the police for doing their job.”


Ironic considering their tendency to break the law.
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