re: Belligerent Miami Fan Thinks She's At Sonic, Gets Cop's Knuckles To The Face

Why is everyone assuming the persyn’s gender????? Why is everyone assuming the cop’s gender and race? Ffs people, have we learned nothing????

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is it 'ok' to hit a woman in the face?

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I believe you should never hit a lady....with that said when females try and assault you then they are no longer Ladies and have consented to being handled like men.

If you hit someone....you should expect to get hit back.

With that said....you don't hit someone that is being restrained by 3 other officers...you have to remain professional and hold yourself to a higher standard.

They completely screwed that removal up. Put her in the escort position and escort her out.

Punching her also shows you have an officer that makes shitty decisions and is a liability to the department.

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The LEO is in a no-win. IF she was struggling and they take the steps necessary in front of everyone then they go too far. They go THIS route and it turns out poorly.

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bullshite.

One officer on each arm in the escort position...and you escort her out.

Simple.

Simple? Escort position is if someone is walking. They were carrying her.

Ooh. Sorry.

He doesn’t seem to be local. Not sure he’d get the reference.

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Can you shoot someone who is being restrained by two officers?

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Yes....if he is attempting to access a weapon....he has raised the level of force to deadly which justifies lethal force.

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Simple? Escort position is if someone is walking. They were carrying her.

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Correct which is wrong.

Initially...the two officers should have put her in a non-compliant escort position and escorted her out.

This is basic defensive tactics and restraints taught to all officers.

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SOMETHING made them go the route that they took. But you know best.

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Yes they saw a female they thought would be an easy removal and could just grab up and carry out....they got complacent and the department and taxpayers is fixing to shell out money over it.

That is why you use proper tactics that you are trained in from day one to minimize these incidents.

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the two officers should have put her in a non-compliant escort position and escorted her out.

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I’m not sure what that is. Would that have been possible in a dense crowd on very narrow, steep stairs divided by a rail? Honestly, I don’t know.

Edit: I’ll point out again that there were 4 officers trying to cuff her. I’d like an LEO poster to tell us a safer way to remove a combative drunk in this precarious situation.