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re: Baws, as of 1/1/25 your Netflix subscription will be subject to sales tax
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:51 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:51 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Consumption taxes are never good for encouraging economic activity.
Income taxes are good for encouraging economic activity?
I'd say no taxes are good for economic activity, but that's not really the discussion we're having here is it?
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 2:52 pm
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Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:52 pm to imjustafatkid
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The only people who will be "worse off" are the ones who are paying literally nothing in income taxes now.
This isn’t true. The State, who wants to sell you sunshine and roses because it’s their proposal, doesn’t even say this
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:53 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:it’s amusing how wrong you are and don’t even realize it.
imjustafatkid
And I don’t like mingo as a poster. But he isn’t wrong on this topic. People downvoting him doesn’t change that
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:53 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
They already took money out of the new bridge fund to make up the deficit from cutting income tax.
I still can’t believe people thought Jeff was the best choice. Like fricking mind boggling.
I still can’t believe people thought Jeff was the best choice. Like fricking mind boggling.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:54 pm to imjustafatkid
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Income taxes are good for encouraging economic activity?
You’re conflating two different things
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I'd say no taxes are good for economic activity
The taxation is theft corner is one of the lowest IQ corners of the internet. How do you plan to sell your goods and services with no infrastructure?
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:54 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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it’s amusing how wrong you are and don’t even realize it.
Except for the reality that I'm not wrong. Consumption taxes are better than compulsory taxes. In every instance. Always.
There is no legitimate argument otherwise. State confiscation is always worse than the alternative.
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:55 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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but you make less income because people are consuming less of your goods.
Doesn't work that way in my industry.
And the "if you want to pay less taxes buy less shite" is a solution to your sky screaming. Some people may spend less, some people may spend more, some people may not change. It's really up to the individual. Which is the beauty of it. Personal choice is much better than mandated government edicts, don't you think, mr. "fiscal conservative"?
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You still make more money for every dollar you earn. Are taxes too high due to unencumbered government spending? OF COURSE. But that’s not a reason to make yourself worse off
You keep repeating this trope, though these past couple years with record inflation, spending didnt' really slow down any. And if my spending tax expenses outweights my income tax savings, then maybe i should stop spending so much? This isn't a hard problem.
This boils down to simple personal responsibility. You want your choice removed in favor of the government making those choices for you. You sound like a Democrat.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:58 pm to whoa
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I still can’t believe people thought Jeff was the best choice. Like fricking mind boggling.
who was a better choice?
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:58 pm to BugAC
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And the "if you want to pay less taxes buy less shite" is a solution
Said another way, make yourself worse off to pay the same amount
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:59 pm to MorbidTheClown
There were several. Jeff was the worst Republican candidate.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:59 pm to imjustafatkid
You said if people bought the exact same goods as the prior year they wouldn’t pay more in taxes. That is inherently false.
You also couldn’t understand his point on how increasing inflation with a consumption tax results in an increased tax burden for individuals
You also couldn’t understand his point on how increasing inflation with a consumption tax results in an increased tax burden for individuals
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:00 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You’re conflating two different things
Nope, the other poster did that.
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The taxation is theft corner is one of the lowest IQ corners of the internet.
It's simply reality. The debate is about how much, and what type of, theft you agree with.
And the people who founded this great nation of ours would absolutely disagree with you about the nature of taxation, especially when it comes to income taxes, and were all much smarter than you.
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How do you plan to sell your goods and services with no infrastructure?
Why do you believe government is the only entity that can build out infrastructure?
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:00 pm to MorbidTheClown
quote:Wags or Schroeder
who was a better choice?
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:01 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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The taxation is theft corner is one of the lowest IQ corners of the internet. How do you plan to sell your goods and services with no infrastructure?
You must love it when the pentagon can't account for $824 billion of taxpayer dollars.
It's always the nanny state types that want to be taxed harder. And it's usually those that do not pay income taxes, and when the fact that 48% of the general public does not pay income taxes they say, "but we pay sales tax". Yes, you do. And now you get to pay more, while i get to pay less. Enjoy your choices. Let your actions work for you. Stop being a slave to consumerism if you are so concerned with sales tax. It's that simple.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:02 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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You said if people bought the exact same goods as the prior year they wouldn’t pay more in taxes. That is inherently false.
I never said anything of the sort.
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You also couldn’t understand his point on how increasing inflation with a consumption tax results in an increased tax burden for individuals
Increasing inflation increases tax burden regardless. His point is nonsensical.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:03 pm to imjustafatkid
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And the people who founded this great nation of ours would absolutely disagree with you about the nature of taxation, especially when it comes to income taxes, and were all much smarter than you.
They also barely left their homestead and didn’t allow women or minorities to own land. We are playing under a different set of rules.
Who the hell knows what they would think. It’s literally impossible to know
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:03 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Said another way, make yourself worse off to pay the same amount
There it is. You think things decide your self worth. You are just upset that you are shackled to your spending. I enjoy things to, from time to time. I also know how to budget and what to cut out when shite like inflation started rearing it's head. If you are upset over the extra $2 over netflix, unsubscribe to netflix.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:03 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:we are discussing which tax system results in a lower overall tax burden for the average individual. Not which system is morally superior.
There is no legitimate argument otherwise. State confiscation is always worse than the alternative.
You are conflating the two.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:04 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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They also barely left their homestead and didn’t allow women or minorities to own land. We are playing under a different set of rules.
Who the hell knows what they would think. It’s literally impossible to know
This is as close as someone can get to admitting he can't argue his point without outright saying it.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:05 pm to imjustafatkid
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Consumption taxes are better than compulsory taxes. In every instance. Always. There is no legitimate argument otherwise. State confiscation is always worse than the alternative.
If Louisiana dropped ALL income and property taxes in favor of a 25% sales tax, how far away from a neighboring state would you have to be for you to buy that new fridge in Louisiana?
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