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Bauxite Ponds - would you live next to one?

Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:28 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:28 am
At least I think it's a bauxite pond out towards Pelican Crossing in Gonzales. Isn't that stuff dangerous to your health?

Would you live next to one of those?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:28 am to
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Isn't that stuff dangerous to your health?



isn't that entire area referred to as "cancer alley?"
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
9829 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:29 am to
Can I fish it?

If not then no.
Posted by TypoKnig
Member since Aug 2011
8928 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:29 am to
I would choose to not live in Gonzales for a number of other reasons besides the pond.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:31 am to
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I would choose to not live in Gonzales for a number of other reasons besides the pond.



Assume Gonzales was nicer and more developed....what's an appropriate and healthy distance from one of those ponds?

Because there is a decent neighborhood (by Louisiana standards) going up directly alongside of one. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, although I guess I can see the appeal of being able to get to New Orleans and Baton Rouge relatively easy.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 10:32 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16864 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:34 am to
The back side of Pelican Point might be okay. I wouldn't live on the other side of LA44.

The new neighborhood up closer to the highway looks nice.
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10602 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:35 am to
Creel limit on Bauxites is 350.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:37 am to
I wouldnt live in the neighborhood that exist next to that pond for many reasons, the bauxite pond isn't one.

Never heard of any health issues associated.

As far as it being Cancer Alley, rates are no higher than the rest of Louisiana. OCAW publicity from the 80s that just stuck.
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
7949 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:40 am to
Can’t answer on the health issue but you’ll have a never ending chore of cleaning red dust off of everything you own, and that’s not an exaggeration
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16864 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:45 am to
The bigger environmental disaster in the making is the gypstack mountain behind Mosaic - downriver from Gonzales.

It's massive, and it's not stuff you want rushing anywhere near homes or wildlife. Although It may never break or leak.




This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 10:54 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:47 am to
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The bigger environmental disaster in the making is the gypstack mountain behind Mosaic - downriver from Gonzales.



What's the issue with that?
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
7949 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:07 am to
There’s an old alumina plant in the area which is the cause of the red dust and the reason for the pond referenced in the OP. If you’ve ever noticed that red plant on the southeast side of the Gramercy bridge, that’s not red/rust colored paint. That’s also an alumina plant covered in dust from the bauxite
Posted by farad
St George
Member since Dec 2013
9665 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:15 am to
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Although It may never break or leak.


I don't know about that...

LINK
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
2878 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:18 am to
No bawxite post yet? I am disappointed in the OT
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11428 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:25 am to
quote:

Can’t answer on the health issue but you’ll have a never ending chore of cleaning red dust off of everything you own, and that’s not an exaggeration


My first house was sold to me by Gil Broussard who was planning to develop Pelican Point. He was so proud of it he brought his sales portfolio to the closing. Kinda shitty of him, in retrospect. I questioned the location then.

I worked at Ormet when I was 19/20 as an operator, and I would pass by the acreage for sale on the North side of Hwy 44 across from PP every single day and debated on whether or not I should by some. The one thing that kept me from doing it was what you are saying. The red dirt/dust and the caustic ponds.

I passed up buying any of the 2-5 acre lots for 16K, 22K,30K etc... then years later after I left Ormet and a friend of mine bought a house there, lots were going for upwards of 120K.

Since then, that area has developed far more than I would ever believe. The truth is, the ponds aren't really very hazardous, it's mud and high pH water.

Do you live near there? Just wondering, because I know some folks who do and spent a lot of time with them there while Ormet was in operation, and I don't remember bauxite on any of his stuff.



Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
7949 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:38 am to
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Do you live near there?


No but I’m familiar with the area because that Ormet plant has been a customer of mine for years although Ormet hasn’t owned it in quite a while. You may already know but it’s currently shut down right now, but someone will eventually start it back up whenever the market improves and stabilizes a little, as usual
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14279 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:59 am to
Not trying to scare you but it’s a proven fact that everyone who lives within 5 miles of a bauxite pond dies eventually.

But Greg Hackney is from Gonzales so it kind of equals out.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:00 pm to
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it’s a proven fact that everyone who lives within 5 miles of anything dies eventually.

Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16864 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:14 pm to
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I passed up buying any of the 2-5 acre lots for 16K, 22K,30K etc... then years later after I left Ormet and a friend of mine bought a house there, lots were going for upwards of 120K.




As pointed out earlier....the location is almost right in the middle of the New Orleans-Baton Rouge route. It has easy access to shopping and I-10. I get why it's popular, especially among families where one may commute to Baton Rouge, the other to New Orleans. Doesn't shock me that the value of land increased as you noticed.

I may be mistaken, but I don't believe that area flooded either.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 12:15 pm
Posted by viv1d
Member since Aug 2017
1617 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:14 pm to
frick no I wouldn’t live by one. Whenever you hear of ‘fracking contaminates water supply’ is because they drained fracking chemicals into a pond without the barrier on the ground. Whatever is in the pond (if it doesn’t have a barrier) goes back into the ground drinking water.
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