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re: Baton Rouge, Louisiana is now off of the hook

Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:34 am to
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:34 am to
I have to try to not roll my eyes into the back of my head whenever I read incident reports.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:35 am to
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Let's wait for the full story to come out, not just the aftermath. Shocking proposition I know


While I agree, that is rich coming from some of you who automatically side with the police until a guilty verdict.
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:35 am to
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before going to the hospital. I love Americans



1. They were being detained and not free to go. Officer safety is paramount. Can't Help victim without risking getting shot yourself.

2. Video taping is the best way to get any honesty out of the situation. Without the video the police repor may be that the victim pulled his gun out.

Granted the video doesn't show the actual shooting so who knows but still. You should always record interactions with the police.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:35 am to
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so pretty much exactly what I said? gotcha


If a cop tells you not to reach for a gun and you do anyway, you deserve whatever you get.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:35 am to
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No of course, let's take the one side of the story from a biased individual that makes no sense and run with it. Very logical.


I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that the cops description of the shooting will undoubtedly be different from he woman's description. In my mind, his story is no more believable than hers, but his will be considered "facts". Whether his story is 100% accurate or contains a lot of CYA is irrelevant.

I want to see the whole dash cam recording.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:35 am to
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Because police reports are also always 100% truthful and non-biased 100% of the time, right? Police never ever CYA too? Come on.


Just like BR, this will be turned over to the DOJ, who has no reason to be biased, and the facts will come out. They will collect all kinds of forensic info and autopsies and put forth their best judgment.

I'm not sure what the protocol is for cops, but if it was an unjust shooting, he will prob get manslaughter.
Posted by noonan
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:35 am to
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so pretty much exactly what I said? gotcha


Not even remotely close to what you said
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:36 am to
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that is rich coming from some of you who automatically side with the police until a guilty verdict.


Even more rich from a guy that's been playing the contrarian role for the last 24 hours, even for a case he claims is justified.
Posted by ULSU
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:37 am to
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No of course, let's take the one side of the story from a biased individual that makes no sense and run with it.


First of all, her story makes perfect sense. What are you talking about? Not saying it is true, but the story is very believable in the general sense.

I am also inclined to believe she didn't make that whole story up in the minute or so after a cop shot her BF next to her in the front seat. Maybe you're right though, and she had the story already made up in case this happened to her one day.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:37 am to
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If a cop tells you not to reach for a gun and you do anyway, you deserve whatever you get.


well I don't think you deserve it, its obviously foolish to reach for a gun if someone is drawn on you

but if the guy was just reaching for his license, is the cop entitled to kill him?


Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:37 am to
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While I agree, that is rich coming from some of you who automatically side with the police until a guilty verdict.


If you're referring to the BR shooting, most of the altercation and the shooting was captured on unbiased film. Forgive me for siding with the police when the visual evidence and their stories align.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:37 am to
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Not even remotely close to what you said


...what?

Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:38 am to
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Because police reports are also always 100% truthful and non-biased 100% of the time, right? Police never ever CYA too? Come on.


Use to work in Law Enforcement. Believe me you don't write a damn report that could get you fired, in jail, prison where they hate cops. People better be smart and don't believe everything they read in a police report
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:38 am to
Yeah that's my point. Felon or angel, the situation doesn't change.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:39 am to
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but if the guy was just reaching for his license, is the cop entitled to kill him?


That is not what I quoted you as saying. I replied to your post that said:
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I think the cop told him not to reach for his gun but the guy reached for it anyways.
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so pretty much exactly what I said? gotcha



That's not what you said, and I stand by my statement that you deserve to be shot if you reach for a gun when told not to.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:39 am to
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I just can't see any situation where I get pulled over, I inform the cop that I have a CC, and then the cop draws on me and if I move he is entitled to kill me


That's what you said. And that is not even close to what I said.
Posted by ULSU
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:40 am to
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Because police reports are also always 100% truthful and non-biased 100% of the time, right?


Was it the case where the cop shot the guy in the back in South Carolina where the report was 100% opposite of what happened, and no one would have ever known without that anonymous video the cops didn't know about?
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 8:46 am
Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:40 am to
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First of all, her story makes perfect sense. What are you talking about? Not saying it is true, but the story is very believable in the general sense.

I am also inclined to believe she didn't make that whole story up in the minute or so after a cop shot her BF next to her in the front seat. Maybe you're right though, and she had the story already made up in case this happened to her one day.


Odd that the police not releasing any info to the mother, mother and uncle can't get ahold of gf, don't know if she's ok, being interrogated, etc.

Fishy. They talked about it on CNN, no info released, no incident of what happened, can't find gf.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:40 am to
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That's not what you said, and I stand by my statement that you deserve to be shot if you reach for a gun when told not to.


uh yeah...and I responded and then asked another question for you?

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/7/16 at 8:41 am to
This one SHOULD get more attention than BR for a lot of reasons.

Hopefully it will.
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