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Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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they track students
the kids who don't excel in middle school don't even get to take a high school curriculum that allows them to go to college
i think they have 3 tracks
i think it's university track, trade school track, and then one that doesn't lead to post-secondary education
Austria is similar. I did summer school there in college, and its crazy how efficient it is.
However, there are definitely kids that do poorly in middle school that could end up being brilliant doctors or something and its pretty hard to get out of your "track" once the state puts you in it.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:32 am to TheCaterpillar
And of course rich kids can still pay their way into the higher education track via boarding schools, etc.
I remember one of my professors telling us a story about how they have the best mechanics in the world because they’ve been on a “mechanic” path since grade school. Kind of funny, yet makes a ton of sense.
I remember one of my professors telling us a story about how they have the best mechanics in the world because they’ve been on a “mechanic” path since grade school. Kind of funny, yet makes a ton of sense.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:55 am to Kujo
Germany has four universities in the QS Top 100 World Rankings. If you can get into one of those and pass the curriculum in the German language, it makes total sense.
And hell, you get 4 years of study abroad. Pretty awesome experience.
And hell, you get 4 years of study abroad. Pretty awesome experience.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:57 am to TheCaterpillar
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Austria is similar.
Teaching at a university here now. We get a lot of Germans who can't pass the entrance exams. Austria has no exams, they pretty much take everyone. IMO it is a flaw in the system and that's part of why we have 90k students.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:58 am to Kujo
One of my good buddies who posts here is doing this. Getting a masters in finance.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 9:54 am to VolInBavaria
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That's what I'm doing
Cool! Best of luck and represent us well!!!
Posted on 2/15/16 at 10:09 am to Robin Masters
I spent a semester in Austria, which uses the same educational model as Germany. The running joke with my friends when there was someone doing a shite job or complaining about their job was "it all went south when they failed that test in middle in school."
Posted on 2/15/16 at 11:18 am to SabiDojo
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Please, go on. I don't know how it works over there.
When you finish their high school equivalent, you take a standardized test, much like our ACT/SAT.
But this test is also a measure of what fields you should go into, not just a measure of intellect. Many kids go off of their results and go to Univerität, a trade school, or they enter the workforce doing something but else.
Over there, technical schools and trade schools are highly regarded, unlike over here, because people in Germany still see themselves as craftsman who carry on a trade--not some college reject who went to ITT Tech.
Over there people get degrees in areas they actually practice (at least to a MUCH greater extent than they do here). People who want to be doctors, lawyers, teachers, accountants, etc go to college already planning on these career paths--contrary to the U.S. where many kids go to college to get a degree and figure it out along the way.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 12:29 pm to logjamming
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Children aged three to six, may attend kindergarten. After that, school is compulsory for nine or ten years. From grades 1 through 4 children attend elementary school (Grundschule), where the subjects taught are the same for all. Then, after the 4th grade, they are separated according to their academic ability and the wishes of their families, and attend one of three different kinds of schools:Hauptschule, Realschule or Gymnasium.Grundschule teachers recommend their students to a particular school based on such things as academic achievement, self-confidence and ability to work independently. However, in most states, parents have the final say as to which school their child attends following the fourth grade.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 12:52 pm to Dizz
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"it all went south when they failed that test in middle in school."
Well, no surprise why you only lasted a semester.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 12:59 pm to lsusteve1
I'm still pretty close with a German exchange student from my high school days
If I wasn't already so close to graduating, I would be really looking into this. Wonder if they have grad school programs in similar fashion
If I wasn't already so close to graduating, I would be really looking into this. Wonder if they have grad school programs in similar fashion
Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:43 pm to lsusteve1
Yeah the semester ended and I came back to LSU.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 8:51 pm to Kujo
This makes no fricking sense, a priori. There must be more to it. This Minnesota girl doesn´t have a German passport?
Posted on 2/15/16 at 9:38 pm to Kujo
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Who are the types that Germany pulls with this type of program, truly the brightest, forward thinking, adventuresome minds. This is the cream of the "bad crop"...the unfortunate higher IQs born into a lower socioeconomic status.
The wording of your point could use a little polish, but I think you hit an important point.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 9:42 pm to Kujo
This was linked at the bottom of page 1 so nobody probably opened it.
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Hauptschule
The Hauptschule (grades 5-9) teaches the same subjects as the Realschule and Gymnasium, but at a slower pace and with some vocational-oriented courses. It leads to part-time enrollment in a vocational school combined with apprenticeship training until the age of 18.
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Realschule
The Realschule (grades 5-10 in most states) leads to part-time vocational schools and higher vocational schools. It is now possible for students with high academic achievement at the Realschule to switch to a Gymnasium on graduation.
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Gymnasium
The Gymnasium leads to a diploma called the Abitur and prepares students for university study or for a dual academic and vocational credential. Curricula differ from school to school, but generally include German, mathematics, computer science, physics, chemistry, biology, geography, art (as well as crafts and design), music, history, philosophy, civics, social studies, and several foreign languages. In recent years many States have changed the curriculum so students can get the "Abi" at the end of the 12th grade. Other States are making the transition but may still require a 13th grade.
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Gesamtschule
The Gesamtschule, or comprehensive school, is only found in some of the states. It takes the place of both the Hauptschule and Realschule. It enrolls students of all ability levels in the 5th through the 10th grades. Students who satisfactorily complete the Gesamtschule through the 9th grade receive the Hauptschule certificate, while those who satisfactorily complete schooling through the 10th grade receive the Realschule certificate.
Posted on 2/15/16 at 9:48 pm to Kujo
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Jalen says "Process tech RPCC BAW!"
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