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re: Auburn ranks DEAD LAST in this list of best colleges for...
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:24 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:24 am to NYNolaguy1
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I am curious about the correlation between pell grant recipients and also being named #1 in availability of free speech on campus.
It's like a chicken or the egg thing
I've worked with many many poor people over my career and honestly they are usually the rudest and meanest most spoiled people I've ever come across
It got me thinking:
1. Are poor people rude, crass, and childish because they are poor and they are just lashing out?
OR
2. Are poor people poor because they are rude, crass, and childish and they are just sorting themselves into the economic standing they deserve for their behavior?
Which one comes first?
Couple the rude and crassness with a fairly well hidden inferiority complex and you can surmise why lower socio-economic people wouldn't want certain truths to be discussed and would want some speech stifled.
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Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:28 am to DakIsNoLB
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Oh goody. I wonder how much of that is financed by student loans and facilitated by taking worthless majors.
Not picking solely at Bama; this seems to be the common approach and at the core of the student debt crisis.
Part of the issue is that there are a lot of qualified students who can't get into their instate school because they are being turned away for less qualified instate students based on non-scholastic factors (ie DEI, etc).
There was a period of time it was almost as hard to get into UGA instate from certain counties when they were throwing around tobacco settlement money as it was the ivy league according to people I know.
Even places like FSU which aren't thought of as elite are now top 35 because of population growth in some states leading to dramatic increases in selectivity for in-state students.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:33 am to AUFANATL
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Lots of middle class kids don't qualify. Even some people that might be considered poor based on the circumstances (eg, big family in a high COL area) don't qualify.
Yeah, I knew of exactly one single person in my extended group of friends that qualified for, and received, a Pell grant. And I had a pretty wide-ranging circle of people in my time at Auburn.
The person who got it, I know for a fact, came from a family that had more money than my family and I was rejected for one. My parents made me apply for all kinds of financial aid and scholarships, including a Pell grant, to try and soften the blow to their bank account.
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:41 am to tide06
quote:is this really prevalent, if so I didn't know. Back in 90s my Pell grant didn't cover expenses. I had partial ROTC scholarship and still had to take out subsidized loans and work to get by.
2023 Pell Grants are being abused wholesale by unqualified students with no intention of completing a degree
Posted on 9/30/23 at 12:59 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Using Pell grant for daughter to go to out of state public school instead of paying in state tuition, interesting approach.
Do those schools offer a degree she cant get in state?
Pell Grants are federal.
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 9/30/23 at 4:26 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
There are roughly 147,323 community colleges in the state of Alabama. That’s why you have less financial “diversity” at Auburn. Competitive admissions probably also plays a roll.
Posted on 9/30/23 at 4:42 am to DakIsNoLB
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Not picking solely at Bama; this seems to be the common approach and at the core of the student debt crisis.
The USC Columbia med school has a very large out of state population.
I told a kid at the club to apply there after he did not get into Medical College of Georgia. He got in.
So IF you know someone applying to med school, let them know.
Posted on 9/30/23 at 6:15 am to StringedInstruments
Auburn is great
Posted on 9/30/23 at 6:20 am to Poker_hog
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Economic diversity is probably the only “diversity” metric that should matter at colleges. There’s no doubt that a rich kid would have advantages over a poor kid. If you’re evaluating potential of an applicant I think it’s fair to factor that in.
Lets just face it. College is a business. If you are a business, wouldnt you prefer to deal with people who have money. Not the poors.
Why beat around it.
Posted on 9/30/23 at 6:39 am to LanierSpots
Thats exactly the problem
Posted on 9/30/23 at 6:47 am to Poker_hog
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Economic diversity is probably the only “diversity” metric that should matter at colleges.
That’s what was manipulated into this “blacks only” shite we have now. It started with good intentions of giving promising young poor people a chance.
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