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re: At what point do we (myself included) say enough of this and get the hell out this state?

Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:36 am to
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
21468 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:36 am to
LA is a huge shithole!

I travel this entire country, been to all 48 lower states....and there are far better places to live!

I tell my boys, get the hell out of here!
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
8948 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:37 am to
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You guys should come to Orange County. It’s not so bad here.


True. I love The OC. Cost of living is out of control though. Thanks NIMBYs.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:38 am to
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This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 6:40 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33296 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:38 am to
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My bias is to urban living


That’s pretty much the opposite of 85% of the OT. Not sure why you’re trying to convert everyone.

Generally speaking the people in S La are not interested in the type of urban living you are promoting.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 8:39 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39811 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:38 am to
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Rows and rows of single family homes and the nearest grocery store being 20 minutes away is just poor design. You waste so much time, money, and energy that does not need to be wasted.


I can’t think of a single neighborhood that fits this description. I understand what you’re saying about self contained neighborhoods and those are nice. It’s good to have neighborhood grocery stores and restaurants, but I don’t feel the need to force them in people in the name of efficiency.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
67884 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:38 am to
I live 25 mins from Disney Land and I’ve still never been.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
52973 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:38 am to
Well bye kitty
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451057 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:39 am to
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You can actually design a suburb with mostly single family homes that is also walkable with a few mixed use areas integrated into it. Think Uptown New Orleans, but you can crank up the density a bit, dial it back, create more greenspace, etc.

The problem is that costs raise, which defeats the primary purpose of suburbs (living with space for less money). This is only available in some of the most prosperous suburbs due to this reason.

Housing is already insane. Making it even more costly is going to force a lot of families out of the market entirely.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37519 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:39 am to
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My bias is to urban living and in an urban setting yards are inefficient and not good


Except for the whole we need plants because they help to give us breathable air thing you are spot on.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37519 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:40 am to
OC is awesome. I love it when we do projects there.
Posted by BR92
Member since Apr 2021
987 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:40 am to
In a few years. I'm not sure where we will land, but I am done with Louisiana. My Father is up in years now and I won't leave him, but his care and needs are the only thing keeping me here now.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 8:53 am
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
34975 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:41 am to
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I wish 93% of the OT would leave Louisiana


If you take Owlie, you gotta deal Michael.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
8948 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:41 am to
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Right, a lot of suburbs are strictly single family residential on some land and strictly commercial with insane parking requirements in other areas. We've created a strip mall life.

You can actually design a suburb with mostly single family homes that is also walkable with a few mixed use areas integrated into it. Think Uptown New Orleans, but you can crank up the density a bit, dial it back, create more greenspace, etc.


frickin this! This is the blight of suburbs - strip malls and miles and miles of parking lots that sit empty and are a waste of space.

Make suburbs mixed use and walkable. It's not a crazy concept people. It really isn't.
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
2175 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:41 am to
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Not necessarily; you can acheive this with high speed trains but god forbid "freedom loving" Americans give up their money pits called cars.


You do realize that land ownership and our topography is the sole reason why high speed rail isn't an investment in this country right?

And the government owns the majority of that land.. not to mention issues with private land ownership.

The way land is handled is why china and japan can develop rail like they can.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
8948 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:43 am to
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Except for the whole we need plants because they help to give us breathable air thing you are spot on.


I have way more greenspace near me with the parks and trails than most burbs with the miles and miles of grass lawns.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33296 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:43 am to
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Make suburbs mixed use and walkable. It's not a crazy concept people. It really isn't.


No one wants to live in shitty duplexes and townhouses that are on top of each other just so that they can walk to the grocery store. It’s really not difficult to understand that there’s an entire population of people who do not want to live in urban mixed use development. That population of people is your current audience.

People want their own space. Not a public dog park, they want their own yard. It’s really not complicated.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 8:45 am
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:44 am to
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This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 6:40 pm
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
34975 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:45 am to
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Texas? That place is infested with Californians.


Yeah, but it's the bipedal ones, not the ones with a prehensile a-hole.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 8:46 am
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33296 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:46 am to
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Again, it is because these designs are not allowed.

And, of course, the fact that no one wants them outside of urban areas that already have them.

Why do you think zoning laws are the way they are? Local population does not want mixed use development.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
23512 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:47 am to
I left right after college and moved to Texas before moving to Texas was cool.

It's been a lot of years and when I go home my town looks the same minus a few new restaurants and a new Walmart.

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