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re: At least 3 parishes reporting COVID-19 cases are being over counted by 40%

Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:35 pm to
Posted by Jumbo_Gumbo
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:35 pm to
I for one am shocked
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:39 pm to
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Didn't the Walkon's thread get removed for that reason?


I don’t know why the thread was deleted.

I know the picture was up for multiple hours and literally no attempt was made by anyone to identify the girl in the picture.

I know you attempted to, and still are, sidestep very direct questions multiple times regarding your early statements that the thread was an attempt to get the girl fired, and that the manager was going to feel pressured to fire her after all the angry phone calls he would be getting as a result of the thread.

I know you proved on multiple occasions throughout the thread that you are literally not intelligent enough to understand the difference between boycotting and cancel culture.

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There are logical arguments against covid and the way they are reported. You are managing to miss all of them.


What statements have I made regarding covid and “the way they are reported”, whatever that is supposed to mean, and how are those statements missing anything?
This post was edited on 8/1/20 at 8:42 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:42 pm to
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What statements have I made regarding covid and “the way they are reported”, whatever that is supposed to mean, and how are those statements missing anything?


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The death rate is actually even lower than what’s being reported because mindless sheep like you believe the death numbers being reported, that include people dying from heart attacks, gunshots, and motor vehicle accidents, are accurate and not also grossly misrepresented.



This post was edited on 8/1/20 at 8:44 pm
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7006 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:46 pm to
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Edwards will be the only person in Lousiana to be surprised by this news


JBE is getting be like Obama when somebody asked him a question about some important issue and he said the first he heard about it was when he saw it on the news !!!
And the media just accepted it.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17024 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:49 pm to
The over reporting of this will never be heard
Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7372 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:53 pm to
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Long article in paper this morning explaining why all of these parish officials are idiots and don’t understand data. HIPPA violations, etc.

Preemptive strike I suppose...


The Advocate’s reporting team loves to carry John Bel’s water.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:53 pm to
I know you being too afraid to answer direct questions is pretty much your calling card around here.

But quoting text and bolding 3 words isn’t a response to anything.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:54 pm to
I actually think it will be known at some point. Granted, it will be years from now and really amount to a nothing story.

Eventually the politics of this will subside and real research will come forward.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:55 pm to
Dude, you asked what statements you made and I quoted the statements you made in the post that I replied to.

Your question was asking what statement you made. I quoted the statement you made.
This post was edited on 8/1/20 at 8:57 pm
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 9:00 pm to
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Dude, you asked what statements you made and I quoted the statements you made in the post that I replied to.


I asked what statements I made regarding covid and “the way they are reported”, whatever that is supposed to mean.

I also asked how those statements are missing anything.

You bolding 3 words isn’t a response to either of those questions.

It’s also not a response to any of the questions about your statements regarding the hostess getting fired from the walkons thread, or your utter lack of cognitive ability to understand the difference between boycotting and cancel culture.
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
45686 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 9:02 pm to
You aren’t going to win, might as well let it go & enjoy your Saturday night
I applaud your effort
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 9:08 pm to
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I also asked how those statements are missing anything.



You are using anecdotal stories and evidence to support your stance. That is not to say there isn't over reporting going on, but saying they are grossly overreported using the anecdotal evidence you gave is missing the real story.



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It’s also not a response to any of the questions about your statements regarding the hostess getting fired from the walkons thread, or your utter lack of cognitive ability to understand the difference between boycotting and cancel culture.


Just look up the definition of cancel culture. That thread was running to social media to get the masses riled up and turn against Walkons. By the end of the first page there were people saying to call her manager and let him know.

It was a bitch move.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 9:22 pm to
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You are using anecdotal stories and evidence to support your stance. That is not to say there isn't over reporting going on, but saying they are grossly overreported using the anecdotal evidence you gave is missing the real story


Your evidence that the case numbers aren’t grossly over reported is ‘all the idiots I know have a story about a false positive test’ and I’m the one that’s lacking sufficient evidence to back my claims?

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Just look up the definition of cancel culture. That thread was running to social media to get the masses riled up and turn against Walkons.


So even after looking up the definition of cancel culture, you still don’t know what it means? if that’s not proof of lacking cognitive ability then I don’t know what is.

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By the end of the first page there were people saying to call her manager and let him know.


Let him know what exactly?

What attempts were made to personally identify the hostess?

Exactly how many posters were demanding for the hostess to be fired?

How many posters said they called the manager and asked for the hostess to be fired? Or even disciplined in any way?

How many other posters besides you even brought up the idea of trying to fire the hostess?

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It was a bitch move.


I would think with your very apparent expertise in this area you’d at least be able to properly identify a “bitch move.”

Apparently I would be wrong about that.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 9:39 pm to
3/4 of your response is knighting for a two week old thread that was removed for the exact reason you are saying it wasn't doing.




And yes, as far as this thread goes, there is only anecdotal evidence showing gross overreporting.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54369 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 9:41 pm to
Dammit Louisiana....you're Floridaing. You should never, ever Florida.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17860 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 9:45 pm to
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It's more than just those parishes. Listen to Moon's show.





Yep his Friday show was awesome
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 9:57 pm to
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3/4 of your response is knighting for a two week old thread that was removed for the exact reason you are saying it wasn't doing.



Knighting? Do we need to add that to the ever-growing list of terms that you use without knowing what they mean?

Where have I knighted for a thread? How have I knighted for a thread?

I’ve continued to ask you very direct questions regarding your absolutely moronic comments from that thread, and you’ve continued to avoid answering them in 100% of your responses.

This is, as you put it earlier, most certainly a “bitch move”

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And yes, as far as this thread goes, there is only anecdotal evidence showing gross overreporting.




The OP in this thread provides a link with statements from officials saying they have personally removed duplicates from the case lists, and saying 3 areas of the state have over-reported cases by 40+%.

While your only evidence to the contrary is ‘all the idiots I know have a story about a false positive’



Let’s go ahead and add “anecdotal evidence” to that ever-growing list of terms you don’t possess the necessary cognitive ability for to use correctly.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 10:21 pm to
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The OP in this thread provides a link with statements from officials saying they have personally removed duplicates from the case lists, and saying 3 areas of the state have over-reported cases by 40+%.


According to LDH the sheriff's and homeland security offices don't have a cumulative case list. They are using a different list given to first responders.

As I said earlier in the thread, it should be an easy thing to clear up. Both sides seem to be stubborn on clearing it up.
This post was edited on 8/1/20 at 10:35 pm
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 10:58 pm to
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According to LDH the sheriff's and homeland security offices don't have a cumulative case list. They are using a different list given to first responders.


Oh, you mean the same LDH that says there are no issues with their numbers despite the fact they’ve been caught manipulating, if not fabricating, numbers previously?

The same LDH that is requiring an NDA to be signed in order for local officials to view their data?

Btw, you had a big issue earlier in the thread with the education requirements of sheriffs that could potentially have access to protected health information. Why don’t you tell us about the education requirements of the hundreds of contact tracers now employed by the state that have access to even more protected health information than these sheriffs would have?

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As I said earlier in the thread, it should be an easy thing to clear up. Both sides seem to be stubborn on clearing it up.


This should be interesting, given your complete inability to answer direct questions:

According to you, LDH is not giving the parish officials access to the correct set of data. How are the parish officials being stubborn exactly?

And why don’t you want to talk about my “knighting” anymore? Or your complete misunderstanding of “anecdotal evidence”?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 11:04 pm to
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According to you, LDH is not giving the parish officials access to the correct set of data. How are the parish officials being stubborn exactly?



Complaining about having to sign related HIPPA documentation.

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Oh, you mean the same LDH that says there are no issues with their numbers despite the fact they’ve been caught manipulating, if not fabricating, numbers previously?


When was this?

Contact tracers have nothing to do with reporting the numbers.
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