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Are Protests Dangerous? What Experts Say May Depend on Who’s Protesting What

Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:04 pm
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As the pandemic took hold, most epidemiologists have had clear proscriptions in fighting it: No students in classrooms, no in-person religious services, no visits to sick relatives in hospitals, no large public gatherings.

So when conservative anti-lockdown protesters gathered on state capitol steps in places like Columbus, Ohio, and Lansing, Mich., in April and May, epidemiologists scolded them and forecast surging infections. When Gov. Brian Kemp of Georgia relaxed restrictions on businesses in late April as testing lagged and infections rose, the talk in public health circles was of that state’s embrace of human sacrifice.

And then the brutal killing of George Floyd by the police in Minneapolis on May 25 changed everything.


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Catherine Troisi, an infectious-disease epidemiologist at the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, studies Covid-19. When, wearing a mask and standing at the edge of a great swell of people, she attended a recent protest in Houston supporting Mr. Floyd, a sense of contradiction tugged at her.

“I certainly condemned the anti-lockdown protests at the time, and I’m not condemning the protests now, and I struggle with that,” Dr. Troisi said. “I have a hard time articulating why that is OK.”

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Some public health scientists publicly waved off the conflicted feelings of their colleagues, saying the country now confronts a stark moral choice. The letter signed by more than 1,300 epidemiologists and health workers urged Americans to adopt a “consciously anti-racist” stance and framed the difference between the anti-lockdown demonstrators and the protesters in moral, ideological and racial terms.

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Those who protested stay-at-home orders were “rooted in white nationalism and run contrary to respect for Black lives,” the letter stated.

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There is as of yet no firm evidence that protests against police violence led to noticeable spikes in infection rates. A study published by the National Bureau of Economic Research found no overall rise in infections but could not rule out that infections might have risen in the age demographic of the protesters. Health officials in Houston and Los Angeles have suggested the demonstrations there led to increased infections, but they have not provided data. In New York City, Mayor Bill de Blasio has instructed contact tracers to ask infected people if they had been in big crowds but not if they attended any protests

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Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:05 pm to
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“I have a hard time articulating why that is OK.”


You're a hypocrite.

That wasn't so hard, actually.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125186 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:08 pm to
COVID-19 supports Black Lives Matters

It’s only a concern if you’re visiting white owned small business
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
19244 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:23 pm to
The science is the science. You can’t change how the virus spreads because people are gathering for different reasons. Unless the virus is somehow self conscious and refrains from infecting protestors.
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Not Phillytiger9
Member since Dec 2015
11969 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:30 pm to
Honk Honk
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:31 pm to
Plenty on this board will tell you BLM protests had nothing to do with the increase in COVID.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:31 pm to
Wokest virus ever!
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17829 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:42 pm to
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Those who protested stay-at-home orders were “rooted in white nationalism and run contrary to respect for Black lives,” the letter stated.


Let's pretend this is the case. Why does that matter? The virus doesn't care how noble your cause is for gathering. It's either a risk or it's not.
If it is true that protests did not lead to spikes. Then there should be no reason that people can't gather for birthday parties, weddings, funerals, etc.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:44 pm to
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If it is true that protests did not lead to spikes.


I think even CNN had to come out and say it did.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76252 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:57 pm to
We've bashed this article for its hypocrisy already, but it was updated, so we can continue to bash it and the hypocritical experts in it.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32833 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 1:53 pm to
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Are Protests Dangerous?


Honest answer is yes. It is 100% the reason why there's any positive cases right now. It is a fact.

But it goes against the agenda of the government, so those fricking crooks are obviously not going to acknowledge it.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76252 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 2:13 pm to
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Are Protests Dangerous?

I also take it that you're not referring to statues falling on people, people setting themselves on fire, or blowing themselves up, right?
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
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Posted on 7/18/20 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
63363 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 2:14 pm to
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But it goes against the agenda of the government, so those fricking crooks are obviously not going to acknowledge it.


Are you saying the government wants protests? If so, why would they want that?
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