re: Are people who sell It Works, Advocare, Body Wraps, etc. trashy?

I'd rather my SO sell weed than sell Advocare

quote:

---

Real salesmen don't try to pawn their shite off on friends/family

---

Lol yes they do.

quote:

---

and get them to buy into a pyramid scheme.

---

I don't know how those businesses/transactions work so I'll just not comment on this yet remain skeptical of your statement.

I know a girl that was all wrapped up in Rodan&Fields for a while. The crazy thing is she makes bank in pharmaceutical sales. I don't know why she even got involved.

I don't mind people doing extra to get ahead.

I do mind if/when I've already told you multiple times that what you're hawking isn't for me, but you keep trying. If other friends are supporting you, wonderful. Just respect me enough to leave me out of it if you've gotten no for an answer already and don't base our interactions around selling me something.

quote:

---

Lol yes they do.

I don't know how those businesses/transactions work so I'll just not comment on this yet remain skeptical of your statement.

---

What kind of salesmen do you know that are trying to sell shite to friends and family, but aren't MLM types? I mean maybe a car salesman or something, but most salesmen have nothing that their friends/family could ever want or afford. A salesman isn't going to try to sell a $5 million linear accelerator to his sister, or $1 million in corrugated packaging to his uncle, or lab equipment to his mom.

And MLM means "multi-level marketing" which is a euphemism for pyramid scheme. Oh excuse me, I mean "wealth triangle."

quote:

---

What kind of salesmen do you know that are trying to sell shite to friends and family, but aren't MLM types? I mean maybe a car salesman or something, but most salesmen have nothing that their friends/family could ever want or afford. A salesman isn't going to try to sell a $5 million linear accelerator to his sister, or $1 million in corrugated packaging to his uncle, or lab equipment to his mom. And MLM means "multi-level marketing" which is a euphemism for pyramid scheme. Oh excuse me, I mean "wealth triangle."

---

The worst part of MLM is the way they hook people. It's very cult-like for a reason. They dont make money by selling products, they make money by indoctrinating people and then sending them out to indoctrinate more people. So now you're dealing with a bunch of clowns who are trying to sell you tchotchkes, while also selling you on their cult.

quote:

---

The worst part of MLM is the way they hook people. It's very cult-like for a reason. They dont make money by selling products, they make money by indoctrinating people and then sending them out to indoctrinate more people. So now you're dealing with a bunch of clowns who are trying to sell you tchotchkes, while also selling you on their cult.

---

I had some friends that got indoctrinated to sell Rainbow vacuums a few years ago. They tried convincing me that I would make unbelievable money if I got involved with their company. I don't drink Kool-Aid.

quote:

---

It's very common for salesman to use family and friends to find clients.

I get referrals from childhood friends, friends fron college, old worK friends. Why is it any different than me saying, "Hey, I practice law. If you or anybody you know need a good lawyer, give me a call"?

I think your hatred for the flavor-of-the-month "MLM" product just skews your perspective about how business works.

---

Of course everyone uses their network, but this is a far cry from how MLM marketing works. With MLM, people literally try to sell directly to their closest friends/family. They aren't using friends/family to make connections, they're actually marketing to them and trying to recruit them into the MLM scheme.

MLM is fundamentally different from conventional sales models. Being successful in MLM requires you to recruit people to join the MLM sales program. It's a pyramid scheme.

A real salesman does not try to recruit people to become sellers. He sells his product and earns a living from the commission.

edit: I think it's interesting that you just claimed not to know how MLM works, yet you're accusing me of bias. That seems very disingenuous to me.

quote:

---

Ah, I see what you're saying. Still, not every MLM is a pyramid scheme. Sounds like very fertile ground for it, though.

---

I'm skeptical about this. I won't claim to be an expert on MLM, but I've read a lot about various MLM companies and they all seem to be pretty pyramid schemey to me.