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Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:59 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Again, you are not understanding this mechanism.
Explain how lobbies pay off politicians.
PACS pay politicians VIA campaign contributions
Now explain how lobby does this.
Also explain how you get politicians educated on issues with no lobbby
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Ideally, by those without a financial bias in the topic they're informing the politicians about.
This is all what I would do, ground up cultivating a system
This is all what I would do, ground up cultivating a system
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:00 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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I have not admitted that, I want money to not influence politicians. The "like minded people" can pool their money as in all contribute to a campaign which aligns with their ideas.
Great
So. You really are so stupid that you don't realize that even if you took all money out of politics, your congressman will still take the call of every Fortune 500 CEO as well as CNN Fox MSNBC, highly influential Hollywood people etc etc
All you did was devise a way so that literally no one can physically make a call on your behalf.
Congratulations on being an idiot and shooting yourself in the foot
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:01 pm to Sneaky__Sally
By making actions more expensive, you make it to where only the rich have access.
Kind of like how regulations only hurt entities that aren’t wealthy enough to put a team of lawyers together to comply. This is why big corporations live regulations.
Kind of like how regulations only hurt entities that aren’t wealthy enough to put a team of lawyers together to comply. This is why big corporations live regulations.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:01 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Again, you are not understanding this mechanism
I understand it. It's you that don't seem to follow it to its logical conclusion and instead believe in unicorns and rainbows
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:01 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Ideally, by those without a financial bias in the topic they're informing the politicians about.
Evry single issue facing humanity has a financial basis and interest.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:01 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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I have not admitted that, I want money to not influence politicians. The "like minded people" can pool their money as in all contribute to a campaign which aligns with their ideas.
You do realize the above paragraph contradicts itself right question mark do I have to spell it out for you?
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:01 pm to OweO
Good or bad
I want my industry represented for my best interest but that could be contradiction to your industry
Before every dumbass says they want to get money out of politics and they hate lobbies If you spend money you are IN politics if you want to exclude yourself from politics do not buy anything, own anything no insurance no taxes no health care can’t hunt or fish legally get caught go to jail and thank the FOP supporters, and the ABA for the lawyer you may use. It’s not simple to get money out of politics politicians are never gonna vote to restrict it anymore than it is.
I want my industry represented for my best interest but that could be contradiction to your industry
Before every dumbass says they want to get money out of politics and they hate lobbies If you spend money you are IN politics if you want to exclude yourself from politics do not buy anything, own anything no insurance no taxes no health care can’t hunt or fish legally get caught go to jail and thank the FOP supporters, and the ABA for the lawyer you may use. It’s not simple to get money out of politics politicians are never gonna vote to restrict it anymore than it is.
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:02 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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By making actions more expensive, you make it to where only the rich have access.
Amazing, eh?
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:02 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Ideally, by those without a financial bias in the topic they're informing the politicians about
My God
A no shite, walking talking vegetable
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:03 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Lobbying fees help subsidize a mechanism which helps wash out the influence of big money donors. The populations profits
So you want other people taxed and that money redistributed to others to donate to campaigns?
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Amazing, eh?
And the idiot is COMPLETELY oblivious to it
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:03 pm to ShortyRob
Look you are not grasping how this concept works. Its coupled with campaign finance to make the elected officials not beholden to those people you mentioned because those people now have significantly less influence on re-election. Again, my ground up construction of a system.
I'm going to respond to the other person a time or two and then go to bed.
I'm going to respond to the other person a time or two and then go to bed.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:04 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Basically yes, I want lobbying taxes to help subsidize mass political contributions
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:04 pm to OweO
Depends. They serve a needed purpose. There are lobbyists for everything; google to Exxon just as they exist for airports, school districts, and cancer groups
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:04 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Look you are not grasping how this concept works.
How do you educate politicians without lobby?
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:06 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Look you are not grasping how this concept works. Its coupled with campaign finance to make the elected officials not beholden to those people you mentioned because those people now have significantly less influence on re-election. Again, my ground up construction of a system
Again. At this point. You've humiliated yourself. And I get that you don't know it because often people in your shoes don't
But if you think the CEO of Amazon or Google or major Hollywood producer don't have more influence than you and all your buddies with your $100 donations you're a fricking idiot.
None of those people have to donate a single penny to a politician's opponent to defeat him.
My God. You're a child
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I just mean someone in the govt working with Congress who "researchers, is involved with and understands" said topic.
Not someone with a financial incentive to sway the politician to a certain opinions.
Not someone with a financial incentive to sway the politician to a certain opinions.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:06 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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want lobbying taxes to help subsidize mass political contributions
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