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re: Are Associates degrees useless these days?

Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:37 am to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:37 am to
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yeah, you're an idiot. I'm in my last semester of nursing school and i already had 3 job interviews in baton rouge where the job is mine once i graduate


Now ask yourself.. why is that?

There is a huge surplus of nurses to fill the available jobs.. but the quality of new hire nurses is fricking terrible. Turnover rate is exceptionally high because of in-house drama and absurd politics and people who can't multitask. And depending on your floor it can be emotionally draining.

Getting to know nursing students was a god damned mistake.. it's horrifying the good ones should have been doctors and the bad ones strippers
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 7:38 am
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18677 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:38 am to
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Really? Name 5 bachelors degrees besides engineering and nursing where you can basically graduate and have your pick of whichever job you want?


It's not so much a question about job availability in one's field for a bachelors. The problem is earning potential. There are plenty of jobs for someone with say only a biology degree, but most are survey or lab tech jobs that don't pay well.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:38 am to
If by everyone you mean less than a third that have a bachelor's degree and less than 40% that have an associate's or higher, then yes, every dumbass.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129036 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:46 am to
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Turnover rate is exceptionally high because of in-house drama and absurd politics and people who can't multitask.


And your more experienced nurses are getting burned out at the bedside because hospital administration keeps making them do more and more with less help nowadays so they leave for other non bedside nursing jobs, leaving the less experienced nurses on the floor with not as many experienced nurses there to properly guide them.
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
3695 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:46 am to
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Medical Coder Associate Degree


My wife just completed this because she would like some flexibility, and maybe work from home at some point. Hasn't been able to find a job yet, and is having trouble getting past the no experience part.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:48 am to
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? the good ones should have been doctors and the bad ones strippers



Yet they all think they are doctors....
Posted by transcend
Austin, TX
Member since Aug 2013
4166 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:54 am to
I have an associates and make over 100k a year in technology field.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34512 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:55 am to
Construction management degrees... I know what they sound like but what are some jobs these degrees allow you to get? I've always done side work doing carpentry, electrical work, sheetrock, tile, etc and I've always thought about getting into building houses.. would get a degree in CM help me along that path?
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6567 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:13 am to
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Associates degrees must be completely useless relics at this point.
It is only relative to who you are competing with to get hired. If you are competing against high school graduates you have a leg up, if you are competing against 4 year degrees you don't.

Nursing is still one profession, because of demand, that a 2-year degree can compete with a 4-year degree. But the nurse with 2-year degree will never get promoted without completing a BS degree.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18576 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:14 am to
Mid and upper management but there are a lot of good possibilities for everyone along the chain.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
3782 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:26 am to
More and more companies and firms are looking for that MAcc or MTax now though
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17524 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:29 am to
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basically graduate and have your pick of whichever job you want?


Sounds like snowflake thinking of being able to get whatever job they want.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40136 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:33 am to
Ehhh I had my pick of job and compensation letter 1 month before I crossed the stage. (BSEE) Electrical Engineering.
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3261 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:38 am to
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Construction management degrees


CM degrees can lead to a multitude of career paths. LSU turns out CM grads that do anything from build houses to estimate to work in the field.

Some of the top grads lately have been being sharked by hospitals to do surgery scheduling at for profit hospitals.

The majority of grads get on at an entry level position with a contractor (i.e. field engineer/project engineer/ junior estimator) from there your career path takes you to either Project manager, Superintendent, or Estimator/Scheduler.

Many people choose to start their own business though, and the easiest/ lowest cost area to get into is homebuilding. Its a saturated market right now. especially if you want to stay in BR. however, if you are good at what you do then you should be fine
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57281 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:40 am to
Education is never useless.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34512 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:44 am to
Thanks... I'm in the Nola area fwiw

I've always wanted to dive into it but really never knew how to go about it

Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3261 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:50 am to
Your welcome. I'm not really familiar with the residential sector in NOLA. off the top of my head though i know that historic restoration and house Renovations are probably big down there.

With your experience you could probably get in housing renovation pretty easily but if you aren't a licensed contractor/tradesman you won't get paid as anything but a "helper". Your probably better off just advertising your handyman services. Unless, of course, you are trying to make a career change.
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10751 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:50 am to
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go for it, PP... I was in the exact same situation that you are in and went back to school....it is damn tough to go back as an atypical student, but worth every bit of it (as long as you finish)....


Thanks for the encouragement everyone. I am going in with a clear (and mature) head, looking forward to it and hope it allows me to more freely dictate my future.


I saw someone post about design/CAD a page or so back. This is actually what led me to the program. I started looking into things that would interest me and that stood out.

There are no "dedicated" CAD/modeling courses around here, but the CM program has a few BIM/CAD classes thrown in.

ETA: I dont really have a direct plan to go into residential, but it stated that the program would prepare you to take the state GC exam, which seems pretty good to have either way. I will definitely go for that as soon as I am able to.
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 8:52 am
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34512 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:04 am to
What did you go back to school for and what are you doing now?? if you don't mind me asking...
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26641 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:06 am to
Just remember, "I'm possible at Herzing..."
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