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Anyone watch the Fox News report on the truth about sex and college?
Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:23 pm
It's interesting to me that colleges are almost always forced to punish the accused or the government might come after them
This post was edited on 12/13/15 at 11:31 pm
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:27 pm to hsfolk
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punish the accuser
Do you mean punished the accused?
And yes - men are getting a rough deal. Guilt is almost presumed these days. Making matters worse, there's little in the way of due process.
This post was edited on 12/13/15 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:28 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Do you mean punished the accused?
Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:32 pm to Lima Whiskey
yes and the guy profiled his jury consisted of 9 women and he wasn't even allowed to bring a lawyer with him
Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:41 pm to hsfolk
If I were ever falsely accused of rape and convicted, I'd serve my time and promptly murder the accuser and her entire family on the day I was released. Your life is already over anyhow. Her family gets the business bc it's about an example. I'd even kill the dog.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:43 pm to ShreveportHog94
Medieval...
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Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:08 am to ShreveportHog94
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Anyone watch the Fox News report on the truth about sex and college? by ShreveportHog94
If I were ever falsely accused of rape and convicted, I'd serve my time and promptly murder the accuser and her entire family on the day I was released. Your life is already over anyhow. Her family gets the business bc it's about an example. I'd even kill the dog.
Me too. Unless it was life in prison. Could you imagine? Guys get convicted with zero physical evidence. Like this one, where the accuser actually recanted everything but the guy will still die in Angola.
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Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:12 am to biglego
I understand wanting colleges to take sexual assault more seriously, but you also want to have a fair trial for both sides
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:15 am to biglego
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This country has some serious criminal justice problems.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 2:46 am to hsfolk
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Anyone watch the Fox News
No.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 2:49 am to Grim
Stay ignorant my friend
Posted on 12/14/15 at 5:27 am to biglego
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Me too. Unless it was life in prison. Could you imagine? Guys get convicted with zero physical evidence. Like this one, where the accuser actually recanted everything but the guy will still die in Angola
The John Kinsel case is one of the most disgusting and disturbing abuses of a prosecutor's power I have ever seen in my legal career. They essentially took the position the "victim" was a liar but she was lying now for some unknown reason. Courts hands were tied because of stupid procedural rules. Word is they even threatened the "victim" with perjury charges and she still maintained she lied and was willing to accept the consequences.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 6:12 am to euquol
it's appallingly cruel. The accuser was willing to take a perjury charge. And Bc it's LWOP and the Feds can't muster enough jurisdiction, his only hope is a governor pardon. Which means he has no hope. Its bad enough that one girls testimony can send a man to Angola without any corroborating evidence, but to have all higher courts and the DAs simply not give a shite when she recants is disgusting. And it's disappointing that this is the one damn case where the Feds decide they lack power. The one time.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 6:35 am to biglego
Wow this Kinsel case BS is insane. The guy is clearly innocent. State govt is trying to keep him in prison so he can't get out and sue them for all they're worth
Posted on 12/14/15 at 7:33 am to biglego
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it's appallingly cruel. The accuser was willing to take a perjury charge. And Bc it's LWOP and the Feds can't muster enough jurisdiction, his only hope is a governor pardon. Which means he has no hope. Its bad enough that one girls testimony can send a man to Angola without any corroborating evidence, but to have all higher courts and the DAs simply not give a shite when she recants is disgusting. And it's disappointing that this is the one damn case where the Feds decide they lack power. The one time.
Prior to the victim recanting, Kinsel used up his post conviction rights including habeas. It's disgusting but you only get one shot at habeas. They basically said he already took his shot and their hands were tied.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 8:33 am to euquol
I thought if new evidence came to light, he would have grounds for a new appeal. I'm not sure if the time limits though and I haven't done appellate work. Pretty sure the DA could spring this innocent man from Angola but that would involve the DA doing the right thing and facing a lawsuit.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 8:41 am to biglego
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I thought if new evidence came to light, he would have grounds for a new appeal. I'm not sure if the time limits though and I haven't done appellate work. Pretty sure the DA could spring this innocent man from Angola but that would involve the DA doing the right thing and facing a lawsuit.
The DAs office actually fought tooth and nail to keep him in prison. He actually won a new trial and the DAs office appealed it in an effort to have it reversed (and it was)
I know the attorney handling the case and last I heard she was considering trying original habeas jurisdiction directly to SCOTUS. SCOTUS declined to hear the original dismissal of his most recent habeas application.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 8:42 am to hsfolk
Here is the rule when it comes to this--don't stick your wicket into any female with Crazy Eyes. If you follow this basic tenet then you will never have a problem being falsely accused.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 9:02 am to euquol
I've met Autumn too and I offered her my help with this case years ago, but she knows what she's doing. I think about this case often even though I've never been involved with it. Just stuck with me.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 9:14 am to biglego
the guy profiled the school claimed that his "smoking gun" in this situation is that the girl asked him for gum to freshen her breath and that should have been obvious that she was drunk like those two go exclusively together
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