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re: Anyone truly willing to die to avoid the vaccine?

Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:08 pm to
Funny,

I am just getting over covid, and don't think I am going to die. Like any other Flu I've had.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51928 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:10 pm to
Completely reasonable
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52203 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:10 pm to
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what? I know that isn't what you said

you said people not getting the flu shot wasn't an issue, yet we have entire campaigns designed to get people to get the flu shot


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ETA: I gotta go. I'd gladly continue to argue with you morons but life unfortunately gets in the way.



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I don't ever remember people choosing not to get them being such an issue.


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How about you stop pretending like it's anything like the push we're seeing now. They're not even remotely similar, and you know it.


Here's the quotes. Nothing about it not being an issue, just that is isn't nearly as big of one. Like I said before, you're clearly confused.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:11 pm to
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I am just getting over covid, and don't think I am going to die. Like any other Flu I've had.



I’m fairly certain my wife and I both had it a few weeks ago. Here I am. Our lives continued basically uninterrupted except for feeling like shite.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86177 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:13 pm to
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Nothing about it not being an issue, just that is isn't nearly as big of one. Like I said before, you're clearly confused.


and should I quote all the times where I agreed with you?

my entire point was simply that we wouldn't have significant flu shot campaigns if it wasn't an issue that people were not getting flu shots

and then y'all accused me of equating the 2 campaigns

This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 2:15 pm
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:13 pm to
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I know of three otherwise healthy males in their 40's that are in the hospital right now. One of them died yesterday, one is on a ventilator and one isn't doing so hot.


Tiger droppings must have the highest concentration of poster’s that know people that died from COVID anywhere on the internet.

It’s amazing.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
86177 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:17 pm to
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I don’t believe you believe this.


You won't find a single post that contradicts it.

But believe whatever makes you feel the best.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52203 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:18 pm to
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and should I quote all the times where I agreed with you?

my entire point was simply that we wouldn't have significant flu shot campaigns if it wasn't an issue that people were not getting flu shots


No, your point was that flu shots have campaigns to get them so they're basically the same things.

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A campaign is a campaign.


^^^^
Your words. Don't crawfish now.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
86177 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:19 pm to
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No, your point was that flu shots have campaigns to get them so they're basically the same things.


no

that is just what you want my point to be

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Your words. Don't crawfish now.


Right. A campaign to push something because its an issue, which you said it wasn't

I'm not crawfishing on anything.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122162 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:21 pm to
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But they’re not going to die from Covid without some underlying issues


Im not saying you are right or wrong. But with a quick google I came across this.

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Fact check: Not all COVID-19 victims had underlying health conditions; new coronavirus is not ‘just another flu’


LINK

If reuters.com isn't a trusted site just let me know because I can link some other sites that pretty much says the same thing.

I know its a small percentage of people who have died, with no underlying conditions, but you said people are not going to die from Covid without some underlying issues.

I know some of you will have some reason why this isn't real or why the information from other sites isn't real and it will be the same bullshite because that's just how a lot of people are.

You believe something and no matter information is presented to you, you are so god damn hard headed you would rather go done than to admit you were wrong, but either way.. the point is.. I wouldn't advise anyone to take medical advice from you
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2409 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:22 pm to
This was the first person that I actually knew. This place is a cesspool for covid right now. My little brother is at home sick as a dog with it right now.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52203 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:24 pm to
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no

that is just what you want my point to be


Right. You've only argued with me for 5 pages because I said that people refusing flu shots doesn't receive the same level of backlash as people refusing the covid shot.

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Right. A campaign to push something because its an issue, which you said it wasn't




I literally just posted my quote which shows you this isn't true. Saying not getting the flu shot isn't such a big issue isn't saying it isn't an issue at all.

Your false equivalence of these two sentiments is your problem, not mine.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19485 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:24 pm to
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This place is a cesspool for covid right now.


Where is this? I'd like to strike it from my summer vacation schedule
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86177 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:27 pm to
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You've only argued with me for 5 pages because I said that people refusing flu shots doesn't receive the same level of backlash as people refusing the covid shot.



but that isn't what you said...

and I only argued with you because you tried to force my argument as equating the 2 pushes, which I didn't

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I literally just posted my quote which shows you this isn't true. Saying not getting the flu shot isn't such a big issue isn't saying it isn't an issue at all.

Your false equivalence of these two sentiments is your problem, not mine.


and I was saying that it was a big issue, thus all the campaigns

if everyone got the flu shot, we wouldn't have all the flu shot campaigns

I never once equated the 2 campaigns like you have tried to force on me

Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51928 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:30 pm to
Oweo I don’t blame you for being more concerned about something like Covid than the average healthy person. Keep fighting the good fight.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52203 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:31 pm to
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but that isn't what you said...


It is exactly what I said. The post is still there, unedited. I've even quoted it for you multiple times.

Not as big of an issue =/= Not an issue. Subtle, yet important distinction.

Also, the former implies that I am comparing two things. Hmmmmmm......I wonder what I could have been comparing the flu shot to.

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I never once equated the 2 campaigns like you have tried to force on me


You took major issue with me saying the push for the flu vaccine was not as big of an issue as the push for the covid vaccine. Your intention was clear.

This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 2:32 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
89129 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:31 pm to
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Fact check: Not all COVID-19 victims had underlying health conditions; new coronavirus is not ‘just another flu’



What a fricking asinine "fact check." Their "fact check" is valid as long as more than zero COVID deaths had underlying conditions.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:34 pm to
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My little brother is at home sick as a dog with it right now.




Tell him to take ivermectin.
Posted by MONROE
In the belly of the beast
Member since Sep 2015
4363 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:35 pm to
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am just getting over covid, and don't think I am going to die. Like any other Flu I've had.


Lucky you. I spent 16 days in the hospital with chest tubes.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86177 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 2:36 pm to
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You took major issue with me saying the push for the flu vaccine was not as big of an issue as the push for the covid vaccine. Your intention was clear.


I took issue with the implication that no one cared that people were not getting the flu shot, which is clearly false

If that wasn't your implication, then I apologize and I concede

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Your intention was clear.


You still have my intention wrong, so it obviously wasn't clear.



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