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re: Anyone here going to rake it in with monthly child tax credit checks?

Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by Don Lemonade
Harlan
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:31 pm to
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From the way I understand it, likely not the case. In order to get it, you have to pay and file a tax return. The group you referred to is likely not contributing to the tax pool in any meaningful way.



There is no minimum income requirement for filing a tax return

There is a limit where you HAVE TO file a tax return

But no minimum

In fact many people file tax returns with huge losses
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 8:32 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:34 pm to
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If you were going to come out even on next year's taxes, taking it now will mean you owe then

We owe them every year already so I declined it. We owe the Feds about $1500 every year and get about 1k back from state. It's about as close as I've attempted to get it to even without much effort.
Posted by BigJman
Member since May 2021
490 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:34 pm to
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Almost all of this money is going to people with 10 kids from 8 fathers in the projects

A nice free 12,000 dollars that will do nothing for the economy at all is a nice boost when your house and food and cable and electricity and car is already paid for already


I agree completely, but isn’t this money they’d already be getting in a lump sum at the end of the year? If it’s an advance then it’s just gonna come out of the lump sum at the end of the year.

Incentivizing having a million kids for people that have zero business having kids is wrong in the first place, but if it’s an advance then it doesn’t seem like its much different.
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Euthanasia, USA
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:37 pm to
The only money I have ever seen from this EBT give away was .16c a plate last weekend.





Posted by Don Lemonade
Harlan
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:37 pm to
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I agree completely, but isn’t this money they’d already be getting in a lump sum at the end of the year? If it’s an advance then it’s just gonna come out of the lump sum at the end of the year.



Its a higher number than ever before

And it says nothing about it being an advance

And do you trust them to not keep this going once given once?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
49943 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:39 pm to
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And it says nothing about it being an advance


Yikes. That’s exactly what it is. You get half of the credit this year and the other half next year. That’s why they waited until July to disseminate it. Exactly six months left of the year.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48355 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:41 pm to
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Yikes. That’s exactly what it is. You get half of the credit this year and the other half next year. That’s why they waited until July to disseminate it. Exactly six months left of the year

I'd be willing to bet 80% of the tax paying population doesn't understand this and you have to make an effort to opt out. Going to be a lot of pissed off people next tax season when they realize they've already spent that money
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 8:43 pm
Posted by BigJman
Member since May 2021
490 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:42 pm to
Advance Article

From this explanation it’s just an advance.

Again, it’s money that they should not be receiving in the first place but that’s another argument.
Posted by Erebus
Member since Jan 2019
574 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:44 pm to
It’s similar but now it’s $3600 for kids under 6 and $3000 for kids 6-17. In previous years it was $2000 per kid.

So my tax refund is usually 6k. This year it’ll be $10,300. Close to $900 a month from now until end of year, so like $4500 and then the remaining $5800 on the refund.

Not quite raking it in, but there’s no point in me rejecting it because it would just all come on the refund.

Yes, a lot of this $ is going to benefit the trash but probably close to an equal amount is going to benefit regular working families.

It’s weird that all of you rich people hang out on the internet together and generalize us poor folks
Posted by Don Lemonade
Harlan
Member since Jun 2021
41 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:44 pm to
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Yikes. That’s exactly what it is. You get half of the credit this year and the other half next year. That’s why they waited until July to disseminate it. Exactly six months left of the year.



Half and half is still more than the previous child tax credit

What is your yikes about?

This is a substantial raise on not only child tax credits but some weird new dependent credit system

Its higher. Way higher. Like I said.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
49943 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:46 pm to
You’re right. I guess I misunderstood. I happen to have two kids under 6 so I finally “get something,” even if it’s just some of my tax dollars back.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
49943 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:47 pm to
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It’s weird that all of you rich people hang out on the internet together and generalize us poor folks




Fellow poor checking in. I’m looking forward to my “extra” $600/month this month.
Posted by Don Lemonade
Harlan
Member since Jun 2021
41 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:49 pm to
What is another couple hundred billion dollars I guess

I am still awaiting our fate

Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
1562 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:50 pm to
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From the way I understand it, likely not the case. In order to get it, you have to pay and file a tax return. The group you referred to is likely not contributing to the tax pool in any meaningful way.


Unless you cash the few checks you get at walmart, don't have a bank account and do most transactions cash only.
Posted by Erebus
Member since Jan 2019
574 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:54 pm to
The scary part is that this bill was approved for 1 year. It hasn’t even started yet and he’s trying to extend it for 5 more years.

Talk about an incentive to have a kid every 10 months. That’s a frick load of a disaster waiting to happen.

I’m not complaining about the 1 year but the 5 year would be very bad. Especially bad since he plans to forgive all student loan debt, raises taxes, and make college free. Increase the population of youth exponentially and then pay for their college for each of them. Just thinking about it is scary.
Posted by Don Lemonade
Harlan
Member since Jun 2021
41 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:54 pm to
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Unless you cash the few checks you get at walmart, don't have a bank account and do most transactions cash only.



Anyone with a SSN can file a tax return that says zero on every line

And everyone on the social programs already knows their local window worker by name and has already filed to get this free money

No one works as hard as someone on the prowl for government benefits

They probably filed a zero tax return before anyone else filed theirs
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
49943 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:57 pm to
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Talk about an incentive to have a kid every 10 months. That’s a frick load of a disaster waiting to happen.


Having a kid is super hard. And a kid costs way more than $300/month. Your view is very cynical and unrealistic.
Posted by BigJman
Member since May 2021
490 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:01 pm to
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It’s similar but now it’s $3600 for kids under 6 and $3000 for kids 6-17. In previous years it was $2000 per kid.


This was the part I was missing
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:02 pm to
We opted out
Posted by Erebus
Member since Jan 2019
574 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:06 pm to
Well.. Good point. You’re right
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