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re: Anyone here against legalizing marijuana?
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:26 pm to Ellssu
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:26 pm to Ellssu
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Auto fatalities and accidents for instance are on the rise in both states.
i call bullshite show me the stats or eat a bag of dicks.
Gooble it yourself fricker, it's right there at your finger tips. I'm not your frickin personal assistant.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:27 pm to BurningHeart
Smoking is legal, I'm not encouraged to do it.
Or...
I'm a business owner who enjoys marijuana now and then. Oh darn I can't partake legally though, our big brother government decided that it was best to make it illegal so some people won't get fired from their workplace.
Do people not realize how ridiculous they sound?
If you want to take the Libertarian view on legalized drugs, that is cool. Are you Libertarian across the board when it comes to other issues or do you pick and choose?
My argument was based on my belief that the Law Of Unintended Consequences is consistently ignored in politics and public policy. Your desire to legalize weed when viewed narrowly shouldn't be that big of a deal. The question that should be asked is what would be the unintended consequences of such a policy move 20 years from now?
You seem very passionate about the subject. Not everybody who questions the wisdom of legal weed is "ridiculous"in having doubts. Your advocacy might draw more people to your position if you saw things as different shades of grey rather than just black and white.
Or...
I'm a business owner who enjoys marijuana now and then. Oh darn I can't partake legally though, our big brother government decided that it was best to make it illegal so some people won't get fired from their workplace.
Do people not realize how ridiculous they sound?
If you want to take the Libertarian view on legalized drugs, that is cool. Are you Libertarian across the board when it comes to other issues or do you pick and choose?
My argument was based on my belief that the Law Of Unintended Consequences is consistently ignored in politics and public policy. Your desire to legalize weed when viewed narrowly shouldn't be that big of a deal. The question that should be asked is what would be the unintended consequences of such a policy move 20 years from now?
You seem very passionate about the subject. Not everybody who questions the wisdom of legal weed is "ridiculous"in having doubts. Your advocacy might draw more people to your position if you saw things as different shades of grey rather than just black and white.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:27 pm to BurningHeart
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Let's ban everything that's not safe to do while driving!
Driving itself is not safe. It is the leading, non health related killer in the US. We need to ban it.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:28 pm to ctiger69
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You have a special place waiting for you in hell.
That's pretty judgemental sir. Only God can judge me
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:29 pm to LSUgirl4
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eta: obviously, i’m not being serious.
I know several people who post here and many others I met at LSU gatherings. I could not be too sure.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:29 pm to al_cajun
Rec use.
No, it’s not the same as alcohol. Alcohol is self limiting in order to function properly and easily measured on the spot in someone’s system.
People can smoke day in and day out, often do
THC is stored in fat cells. This results in low levels maintained even between marijuana use if on a regular basis
The extreme dopamine levels achieved create tolerance that depletes motivation to activate its release naturally through goal completion in life
Marijuana is just another way to escape from overcoming negative emotions when in a rut through actions and adds to emotional weakness
Previous two points are contributors to depression, though a person may insist marijuana cures their depression it only postpones and builds it
Research is limited on marijuana use and it being legal does not indicate it should be trusted as safe. It is legal because of money and just because something won’t kill you literally doesn’t mean it can’t be detrimental
The drug is sometimes used to self medicate better professionally treated physical and mental health problems. It can also worsen or bring to light vulnerability to mental instability, worsen schizophrenia, psychosis, anxiety, etc.
Portraying it as a no risk drug is not helpful to those in denial of its negative impact on their life.
The drug also triggers serotonin syndrome in combination with some widely prescribed antidepressants and also stimulants. People can experience depersonalization, hallucinations, and delusions.
Hormonal effects have been shown such as T level reduction.
Just because the plant is “natural” means nothing and it has been grown to have far greater thc than in the past. If you consume weed by itself it does not dispose thc in an absorbable form. A person must smoke or cook the plant with a high fat ingredient in order to extract the thc.
Yes, I smoked a ton of the shite in the past and I do try to give an unbiased opinion. Saying it’s bad in these ways doesn’t mean weighing the options doesn’t lean towards it in some cases obviously.
No, it’s not the same as alcohol. Alcohol is self limiting in order to function properly and easily measured on the spot in someone’s system.
People can smoke day in and day out, often do
THC is stored in fat cells. This results in low levels maintained even between marijuana use if on a regular basis
The extreme dopamine levels achieved create tolerance that depletes motivation to activate its release naturally through goal completion in life
Marijuana is just another way to escape from overcoming negative emotions when in a rut through actions and adds to emotional weakness
Previous two points are contributors to depression, though a person may insist marijuana cures their depression it only postpones and builds it
Research is limited on marijuana use and it being legal does not indicate it should be trusted as safe. It is legal because of money and just because something won’t kill you literally doesn’t mean it can’t be detrimental
The drug is sometimes used to self medicate better professionally treated physical and mental health problems. It can also worsen or bring to light vulnerability to mental instability, worsen schizophrenia, psychosis, anxiety, etc.
Portraying it as a no risk drug is not helpful to those in denial of its negative impact on their life.
The drug also triggers serotonin syndrome in combination with some widely prescribed antidepressants and also stimulants. People can experience depersonalization, hallucinations, and delusions.
Hormonal effects have been shown such as T level reduction.
Just because the plant is “natural” means nothing and it has been grown to have far greater thc than in the past. If you consume weed by itself it does not dispose thc in an absorbable form. A person must smoke or cook the plant with a high fat ingredient in order to extract the thc.
Yes, I smoked a ton of the shite in the past and I do try to give an unbiased opinion. Saying it’s bad in these ways doesn’t mean weighing the options doesn’t lean towards it in some cases obviously.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:29 pm to LSUBadger
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If you want to take the Libertarian view on legalized drugs, that is cool. Are you Libertarian across the board when it comes to other issues or do you pick and choose?
As long as it doesn't directly hurt others, I'm fine with it.
And directly hurts others doesn't mean some loser decides to get high and drive.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:30 pm to LSUBadger
quote:so... you think someone has to commit themselves entirely their party beliefs? haaaaaaa
Are you Libertarian across the board when it comes to other issues or do you pick and choose?
ctiger- i’m simply suggesting you put the burger and donuts down for your kids. they’ll want their dad around.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:38 pm to Num1TigerSpam
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Num1TigerSpam
Step on up ladies and gentlemen! You are witness to the longest rambling made to justify a bias, with no reason in support for federal legality, in history!
Once again, a supporter for the government being able to tell you what you can do with your own life.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:39 pm to idlewatcher
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I was in Denver this past week and it seemed like all the service staff were braindead AF. Terrible service and I’m usually not one to bitch about stuff like that because I’m a pretty easy going baw but this was outrageously terrible.
What does this have to do with the legalization of weed? I've had excellent service in Colorado at all of the restaurants I've been to in the recent past. You're assuming people are high without any proof.
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I think my hangup is how can it be legal within the state yet you could potentially get shitcanned from your job if you opted to smoke after work?
Nothing changes about the requirements of a job. Either your employer does testing or they don't. If they do test, then you can't smoke. Seems pretty simple. Alcohol is legal. You can't be drunk at work (at most jobs) without getting shite canned.
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I’d like to think of our country as not needing weed to get by
Do we need alcohol to get by? The answer is no. When used responsibly, there's nothing wrong with enjoying alcohol. Same for weed.
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but like the kid eating his dads meth today, just doesn’t sit well with me.
What? Any product that could possibly be harmful to a child should be unavailable to the child. Bleach (as well as most household cleaning products) is legal however it could definitely harm or kill a child if ingested. Guns are legal. If left available to a child, they could definitely kill themselves with it.
Legalization does not mean responsibility is eliminated. Laws governing responsibility are still on the books.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:42 pm to MardiGrasCajun
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MardiGrasTexan
I admire you for taking the time to explain the obvious to him... but he's going to just keep his head in the sand.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:42 pm to LongueCarabine
Fine with me... if people can’t handle freedom why give it to them? There was a time America was full of people who could handle it. Now is not that time
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:43 pm to LSUBadger
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If you want to take the Libertarian view on legalized drugs, that is cool. Are you Libertarian across the board when it comes to other issues or do you pick and choose?
I am.
The illegal nature of drugs isn't stopping people from using.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:44 pm to LSUgirl4
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So... you think someone has to commit themselves entirely their party beliefs? Haaa??
I was asking him a question. Some people take very strong Libertarian positions while others like some of the arguments but not all of the traditional views of that group
Again. Very little in life is black and white. Most issues are a shade of grey
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:49 pm to idlewatcher
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but like the kid eating his dads meth today, just doesn’t sit well with me.
It's illegal.
If Coke were legal, fewer people would probably use meth.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The illegal nature of drugs isn't stopping people from using.
Illegal drug prohibition has worked as well as alcohol prohibition did
Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:04 pm to Collegedropout
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It’s also not as bad as Baptists say, obviously
You're wrong son. It IS the devil's weed.
Fry now, and fry forever!
Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:43 pm to Pelican fan99
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. The people who act like weed is one of the biggest issues in the world annoy me greatly
Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:49 pm to OweO
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Why do we need government telling us what to do? Sorry you hate freedom.
There are currently over 6,500 drugs available in the U.S. that can only be obtained legally with a prescription, and a few thousand more that could probably do positive things for the control of disease if not for government restrictions, but it seems like it only becomes a issue of freedom when the drug is pot.
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