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re: Anyone else really not liking the feds involvement in protest

Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:32 pm to
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:32 pm to
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My family has been in the GOP since before the Huey Long days, and I have given countless tens of thousands to the party and candidates,


You are part of the problem
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71250 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:33 pm to
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How much more money have Portland businesses lost since this was published?

Didn't you read what Korky wrote? "Private property gets damaged every day....so what?"

23 million? Pssshhhhh....Korky wipes his arse with that.
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:33 pm to
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Why were they released without charge?


You realize people get detained and questioned all the time right? By local, county, state, and feds. It's not new. They asked questions they believed them to be person A after questioning they were person B and let go.

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More fascist tactics, invent a boogeyman to rally against.


You say this...but you do exactly that with this!

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So what's going to happen when some Proud Boys start rolling around in camo tossing people into vans


Its a proven fact that Antifa has run wild in Portland unchecked. Don't give a shite about the Proudboys...but if they did this it would be actual "kidnapping" and a crime punishable up to life in prison. So that is a fricking retarded argument. Nothing stops anyone from dressing in camo and snatching anyone off the street other than the law.
Posted by ShaneTheMaster
Tampa, FL
Member since Nov 2009
3265 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:37 pm to
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The vast majority of protesters are peaceful and want their corrupt police departments to change for the better. You are being manipulated into believing that the few bad actors represent all of them. You believe that it is an anarchist movement. But obviously peaceful people are being gassed and shot with pepper balls on a daily basis. This is exactly the behavior they are protesting against.


You do realize you have someone running for mayor In Portland who claims “she is Antifa”, right?
Posted by scionofadrunk
Williamson County, TN
Member since Mar 2020
1961 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:38 pm to
As long as they're not being destructive, I have no issue with any form of protesting.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61255 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:41 pm to
Riveting
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37373 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:45 pm to
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Corrections officer says these young white Antifa types are coming into the jails and being thrown to the wolves. Some of these guys are in their 20's and are scared. They have never been in any situation like that before.

Good. That’s the only way to deal with this Marxist scum.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37373 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:50 pm to
I mean, they’ve only been doing THIS SAME EXACT THING for about 100 years around the globe. This playbook is old as shite. If not for the prog media propping it up it would have fallen apart long ago.
Posted by HamzooReb
Utah
Member since Mar 2013
13616 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:02 am to
shite I wish they would round up the rioters and deport them to some far away island.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9657 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:04 am to
fricking hypocrites.

In the words of Dennis Green, "They are who we thought they were".


Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73029 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:07 am to
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fricking hypocrites.
how so?

When have conservatives ever been against using law enforcement to quell rioting?
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9657 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:11 am to
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conservatives


There's your first problem. Trump supporters who claim to be "conservative" are anything but conservative. The man is running spending money like it's going out of style and robbing taxpayers blind (278 days of golf at his own clubs, for one).

Conservatives have always been supportive of local LE handling these situations, perhaps calling in the NG. The Feds? Read every rant about why 2nd amendment supporters feel the 2nd amendment is the most important amendment of all and then tell me they aren't being hyprocritical by not shouting down the use of federal secret police in a city where neither the local mayor, nor the state governor, asked for the intervention.

They are who we thought they were.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:13 am to
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He's extremely emotional over the Comrades being rebuffed by the Feds.


I can't keep up with all you big government types, so I'll leave you with this:


If you support sending in federal officers to handle things, you need to be damned sure that they are handling criminals and not assaulting innocent Americans.

If you are okay with questionable arrest procedures, you need to recognize that this exemplifies the type of problem that people are protesting against.

If you are convinced that antifa, literally anti-fascists, are all terrorists and that our government can be trusted to accurately identify and be allowed to treat anti-fascists as terrorists, then you need to be extremely sure that every single government action is actually anti-terrorist and NOT anti-anti-fascist.

If you continue to explain away every example of local and federal officers stepping way over the line as somehow justified or as if we don't know who the true antagonist is, you need to ask yourself why you believe that every single report of arson or violence is the work of "antifa" or other far left extremists and not the work of agents provocateur working to justify any and every government action. These departments in Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis and other cities are known to be corrupt, and have been for decades.

If what has happened so far hasn't crossed your line yet, make sure you have a line and that you stand firm by it.


These fed operations are scaling up now. If you still support this shite next week and next month, and if your fellow Americans continue to oppose these big government actions, you need to sit down and think long and hard and make sure you know who the real enemies of America are here.
Posted by TigerfFaithful
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
353 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:24 am to
Not only do I wholeheartedly support fed involvement to protect US property, I hope they do more. As for the criminals and low life “protesters”, they get what’s coming to them. Good riddance to these scumbags.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82942 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:24 am to

You will say absolutely anything to blame Trump and absolve the rioters. I can only hope some peaceful rioters show up at your house to protest their fascism fantasy.

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I can't keep up with all you big government types

I love it when socialists suddenly want the federal government to stay away.



Tell your people to stop with the temper tantrum and no feds will come near them.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73029 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:28 am to
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Conservatives have always been supportive of local LE handling these situations,
link?

If a mayor isn't doing his or her job, then someone else needs to step in to protect the city's people and property.

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where neither the local mayor, nor the state governor, asked for the intervention.



You know who else didn't ask for federal intervention? The mayor of little rock in 1957
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82942 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:29 am to
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You know who else didn't ask for federal intervention? The mayor of little rock in 1957


Liberals must still be pissed at the feds enforcing desegregation
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:32 am to
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If you are okay with questionable arrest procedures, you need to recognize that this exemplifies the type of problem that people are protesting against.


People are protesting a made up boogie man that black people are disproportionately and in genocidal numbers being murdered by white cops. When the numbers tell a completely different story.

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If you are convinced that antifa, literally anti-fascists, are all terrorists and that our government can be trusted to accurately identify and be allowed to treat anti-fascists as terrorists, then you need to be extremely sure that every single government action is actually anti-terrorist and NOT anti-anti-fascist.


You can't serious? They are anarchist who regularly engage in fascistic tactics and violence. They are actual terrorist, they don't have to me brown and middle eastern to be a terrorist. little rich white kids can be terrorist too.

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you need to ask yourself why you believe that every single report of arson or violence is the work of "antifa" or other far left extremists and not the work of agents provocateur working to justify any and every government action. These departments in Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis and other cities are known to be corrupt, and have been for decades.


Those cities are run by far left governments who claim the problem is systemic racism even though they have run those cities for decades. And are you really trying to claim here in yet another straw boogie man that these are false flag operations by the evil fascist Trump? Really?

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you need to sit down and think long and hard and make sure you know who the real enemies of America are here.


I'm pretty sure its Antifa and the far left that want to burn the country i have defended for over 20 years to the ground and replace it with a socialist shite hole. Yeah i know who the enemy is!
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:43 am to
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You will say absolutely anything to blame Trump and absolve the rioters.
You will say absolutely anything to absolve Trump and label all protesters "rioters". See how easy that is?
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I can only hope some peaceful rioters show up at your house to protest their fascism fantasy.
The difference in you and me is I would never hope for harm to come to you or anyone else.
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I love it when socialists suddenly want the federal government to stay away.
Do you not see all the conservatives in here begging for a big government police state?
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Tell your people to stop with the temper tantrum and no feds will come near them.
Nobody hurting people or causing damage are "my people". "My people" are my fellow Americans demanding less corruption and more value for their tax dollars.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73029 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:52 am to
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Do you not see all the conservatives in here begging for a big government police state?


I don't view it as big government when rioters and hooligans are rounded up.

Proper and justified enforcement of the law is not "big" government, it is basic government.

Here's the issue dude.

you rightly point out that the "vast majority" of protesters don't act violently. But the issue is raw numbers. if you have 10,000 people in the streets and 5% are violent, that's 500 dangerous people roaming around. that's enough to do serious damage if they aren't stopped.

I think people are just frustrated that you haven't displayed the slightest bit of empathy towards small business owners, many of whom are immigrants. Is it possibly because you view business owners, even small ones, as the bourgeoisie who steal excess value from labor? So when their store goes up in flames or is ransacked, you see it as economic justice?
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