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anyone else feel that a cure and vaccine will be the only thing that solves this?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:17 pm
all of the social distancing and shite..............
the only way that would work would be if everyone would follow it and we all know this won't happen. even if there's 50 new cases per day in a month from now, they will not say "go back to work". hell........if a child dies at school, a lawyer will eat that up in seconds.
it will take a cure. nothing more....nothing less. until that happens, we can look at these numbers all day and nothing will change except the economical crash.
the only way that would work would be if everyone would follow it and we all know this won't happen. even if there's 50 new cases per day in a month from now, they will not say "go back to work". hell........if a child dies at school, a lawyer will eat that up in seconds.
it will take a cure. nothing more....nothing less. until that happens, we can look at these numbers all day and nothing will change except the economical crash.
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:18 pm to oldcharlie8
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anyone else feel that a cure and vaccine will be the only thing that solves this?
media would never allow this to be a public perception fix.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:19 pm to oldcharlie8
No.
This entire thing is about healthcare capacity.
That’s it. We solve that and we go back to normal, no matter how many people continue to die.
This entire thing is about healthcare capacity.
That’s it. We solve that and we go back to normal, no matter how many people continue to die.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:21 pm to oldcharlie8
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anyone else feel that a cure and vaccine will be the only thing that solves this?
I feel like a pulp fiction style red ball gag and some butter flavored crisco isn't really enough.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:21 pm to oldcharlie8
The second wave this fall will be worse than the first wave
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:21 pm to Salmon
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That’s it. We solve that and we go back to normal, no matter how many people continue to die.
So if reinfection becomes reality we never return.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:22 pm to Salmon
Actually another thing that can happen is 60% of the population gets it and becomes immune to it and we go back to regular life
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:22 pm to tgrbaitn08
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The second wave this fall will be worse than the first wave
Any data to back this up or just Spanish Flu fear?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:22 pm to Salmon
Well that cant really be fixed. Lets say we go back to normal and a new hot spot pops up are we all back inside? That would last for a year. They only ways this gets better is with a cure and the building up of antibodies which cant happen in your home.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:23 pm to Salmon
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This entire thing is about healthcare capacity.
That’s it. We solve that and we go back to normal,
So build more hospitals
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no matter how many people continue to die.
They dont have enough space for the people that have died at this point...how do we solve that issue? Mass graves?
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:28 pm to fightin tigers
The Second wave is always worse than first as the damn virus always mutates and gets smarter. (Maybe it goes after millennials this time)
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:29 pm to LSU5508
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Well that cant really be fixed.
of course it can
with more supplies or better/quicker treatment schedule
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:30 pm to tgrbaitn08
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They dont have enough space for the people that have died at this point...how do we solve that issue? Mass graves?
Cremate?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:34 pm to Salmon
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with more supplies or better/quicker treatment schedule
should we just keep working these healthcare working to like slaves and keep all the nursing homes closed to family and friends?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:35 pm to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:36 pm to tgrbaitn08
Define 'solve'.
That's the real question.
If you mean a complete elimination of it as a factor in public policy and health decisions, yes. If you mean that its the only means to manage it, no. We manage a great many diseases that have never and will never go away, because we have means of medication or amelioration, or the infrastructure to deal with them as they arise, developed over time.
That's the huge structural problem with COVID- none of the tools are mechanisms are in place that we have with non-Novel disease, so we're building them on the fly, with the associated growing pains involved, trading infections and deaths over time for the space to develop them.
That's the real question.
If you mean a complete elimination of it as a factor in public policy and health decisions, yes. If you mean that its the only means to manage it, no. We manage a great many diseases that have never and will never go away, because we have means of medication or amelioration, or the infrastructure to deal with them as they arise, developed over time.
That's the huge structural problem with COVID- none of the tools are mechanisms are in place that we have with non-Novel disease, so we're building them on the fly, with the associated growing pains involved, trading infections and deaths over time for the space to develop them.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:40 pm to oldcharlie8
no, what will solve this is having adequate supplies. that's what the media does a poor job of explaining, and what the real issue is.
if you think about it, testing has not been available really anywhere. so most of the people who are tested have had symptoms, meaning the death rate is artificially high.
however, that also means the contagion rate is artificially low. right now it looks as though for every one person infected infects 2.x more people. but that's with an undertested population. more than likely it's a lot higher than this.
these two things are pulling on each other and are what make this thing really just a more contagious flu. but, a more contagious flu ON TOP of an already really bad flu season, on top of a completely dysfunctional healthcare system, on top hospitals being staffed and stocked only for normal conditions, are what make this so bad.
tldr, it is bad because it makes it hard to care for our normal issues.
so what will end this is not a "cure." it is more likely that a vaccine will solve it, and maybe even a herd immunity the natural way will come before that because again, way more people have it than we know.
if you think about it, testing has not been available really anywhere. so most of the people who are tested have had symptoms, meaning the death rate is artificially high.
however, that also means the contagion rate is artificially low. right now it looks as though for every one person infected infects 2.x more people. but that's with an undertested population. more than likely it's a lot higher than this.
these two things are pulling on each other and are what make this thing really just a more contagious flu. but, a more contagious flu ON TOP of an already really bad flu season, on top of a completely dysfunctional healthcare system, on top hospitals being staffed and stocked only for normal conditions, are what make this so bad.
tldr, it is bad because it makes it hard to care for our normal issues.
so what will end this is not a "cure." it is more likely that a vaccine will solve it, and maybe even a herd immunity the natural way will come before that because again, way more people have it than we know.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:45 pm to TutHillTiger
That is actually not how a virus works at all.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:43 pm to Salmon
How long would you it expect it to take to properly outfit every major population center with a worse case scenario level or ventilators and beds. I'd be willing to bet longer than this virus last.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 3:44 pm
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