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Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:16 pm to PetroBabich
Steve is a couple years older than I. He was drafted in the way the draft was held from the wars before VN. At the time that I was registering for the draft as was law back then within 10 days after your 18th birthday. the draft board instituted the draft lottery of which I was a part of in 1970. The draw of my birthdate was 83 I believe. I did take my physical, and was listed as 1-A. Also at that time I was a student at LSU, so I applied for and received a student deferment. By the time of my graduation 1974, the war was winding down, and the US was removing combat forces from Vietnam. I hope that answers your question.
This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:19 pm to vjp819
I beleieve the student deferments were cancelled by then. Most US combat troops were out of S. Vietnam by 1971.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:20 pm to saintsfan22
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Namvet a bunch of numbers
I am a witness
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:23 pm to Kcrad
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I believe the student deferments were cancelled by then. Most US combat troops were out of S. Vietnam by 1971.
You are so wrong with this statement.
Another friend of mine was also in the draft lottery. His number was 23. He didn’t report to boot camp until 1971, and served in VN until 1972.
The draft lottery lasted only 2 years as best I can recall. 1970 and 1971.
This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:26 pm to vjp819
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Steve is a couple years older than I. He was drafted in the way the draft was held from the wars before VN. At the time that I was registering for the draft as was law back then within 10 days after your 18th birthday. the draft board instituted the draft lottery of which I was a part of in 1970. The draw of my birthdate was 83 I believe. I did take my physical, and was listed as 1-A. Also at that time I was a student at LSU, so I applied for and received a student deferment. By the time of my graduation 1974, the war was winding down, and the US was removing combat forces from Vietnam. I hope that answers your question.
You don’t owe that douchebag an explanation.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:32 pm to Kcrad
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I beleieve the student deferments were cancelled by then. Most US combat troops were out of S. Vietnam by 1971.
Yes, one of the most unfortunate parts of my uncle's death is that they were one of the very first units to he pulled out of Vietnam. He was literally just a couple months from being home. Had he lived he would have been in Camp Pendelton in California to celebrate his 21st birthday with his friends, and back home with his family by thanksgiving. Instead he died on a hill in Vietnam aged 20 and my grandparents received a bronze star instead of their son.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:32 pm to Martini
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You don’t owe that douchebag an explanation.
That is correct
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:36 pm to BowlJackson
Sorry for the loss of your uncle.
Like the other poster said, this is more likely an effort to make a family feel better about a bad outcome than something nefarious.
You'd be shocked at the level of stupidity exhibited by folks in the military. Im not remotely surprised by the "cooking" version of the story.
More recently in the first gulf war they found a huge cache of chemical weapons. In the infinite wisdom of the military they decided to blow it up... Upwind of about 50,000 troops including my unit which was basically gassed by the army.
Stupid stuff happens all the time.
Like the other poster said, this is more likely an effort to make a family feel better about a bad outcome than something nefarious.
You'd be shocked at the level of stupidity exhibited by folks in the military. Im not remotely surprised by the "cooking" version of the story.
More recently in the first gulf war they found a huge cache of chemical weapons. In the infinite wisdom of the military they decided to blow it up... Upwind of about 50,000 troops including my unit which was basically gassed by the army.
Stupid stuff happens all the time.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:39 pm to BowlJackson
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You dont need to be a dick.
He can’t help it, it’s what he is.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:47 pm to BowlJackson
1/3 Marines After Action Report.
30Apr69 to 16Jul69 VIRGINIA RIDGE
Province: Quang Tri- along the DMZ. Units: 3rd Mar(HQ), 1/3, 2/3, 3/3, 9th Mar, 1st Brig 5th Inf Div(US Army). Object: Third Marines search and destroy missions north of the Rockpile, assisted by other Marines and US Army.
Cost: USMC- 108 KIA, 490 WIA and 1 Missing. Enemy losses 560 KIA. ***** Operation "Virginia Ridge" was a Search and Destroy operation in the Cam Lo, Huong Hoa, and Gio Linh area of Quang Tri Province. During this operation a NEW TACTIC was to be attempted. Platoon size or smaller Patrols moving at least every 24 hours or less. This Tactic kept everyone on the move, and attempted to confuse the Enemy. For the total operation 1/3 sustained 45 KIA's, 121 WIA's, and 1 MIA. 1/3 was credited with 84 NVA/KIA's and 2 POW's for the entire operation (CD Rom). ***** 01May69 ***** Co. D- Platoon initial contact with 2-NVA,followed/Ambushed by unk size Emeny force/2-Machine Guns's from Bunkers 9-Kia's and 15-Wia's ***** 02May69 ***** Co. C- 1-Grenade into lines 1-Wia ***** 03May69 ***** Co. D- Out Post contact 3-NVA/Fire-Fight/ Small-arms/Grenades 1-Wia ***** 05May69 ***** Co. A- Explosion of M-26 Grenade/Accidental/Friendly inside perimeter 6-Wia's ***** 05May69 ***** Co. A- Later Accidental Discharge M-16 Rifle/Friendly-Fire 1-Wia ***** 08May ***** Co. C- Point Squad Contact 10-12 NVA dug in/Ambushed/ Fire-fight/Small-arms/Machine guns 2-Kia's and 7-Wia's ***** 09May69 ***** Co. D- Platoon/Ambushed/Camoflaged Bunker 1-NVA observed 1-Wia ***** 10May69 ***** Co. D and Yankee Command- Perimeter Attacked by a platoon size Enemy force at LZ/Small-arms/RPG's/ChiCom Grenades 5-Kia's and 8-Wia's
30Apr69 to 16Jul69 VIRGINIA RIDGE
Province: Quang Tri- along the DMZ. Units: 3rd Mar(HQ), 1/3, 2/3, 3/3, 9th Mar, 1st Brig 5th Inf Div(US Army). Object: Third Marines search and destroy missions north of the Rockpile, assisted by other Marines and US Army.
Cost: USMC- 108 KIA, 490 WIA and 1 Missing. Enemy losses 560 KIA. ***** Operation "Virginia Ridge" was a Search and Destroy operation in the Cam Lo, Huong Hoa, and Gio Linh area of Quang Tri Province. During this operation a NEW TACTIC was to be attempted. Platoon size or smaller Patrols moving at least every 24 hours or less. This Tactic kept everyone on the move, and attempted to confuse the Enemy. For the total operation 1/3 sustained 45 KIA's, 121 WIA's, and 1 MIA. 1/3 was credited with 84 NVA/KIA's and 2 POW's for the entire operation (CD Rom). ***** 01May69 ***** Co. D- Platoon initial contact with 2-NVA,followed/Ambushed by unk size Emeny force/2-Machine Guns's from Bunkers 9-Kia's and 15-Wia's ***** 02May69 ***** Co. C- 1-Grenade into lines 1-Wia ***** 03May69 ***** Co. D- Out Post contact 3-NVA/Fire-Fight/ Small-arms/Grenades 1-Wia ***** 05May69 ***** Co. A- Explosion of M-26 Grenade/Accidental/Friendly inside perimeter 6-Wia's ***** 05May69 ***** Co. A- Later Accidental Discharge M-16 Rifle/Friendly-Fire 1-Wia ***** 08May ***** Co. C- Point Squad Contact 10-12 NVA dug in/Ambushed/ Fire-fight/Small-arms/Machine guns 2-Kia's and 7-Wia's ***** 09May69 ***** Co. D- Platoon/Ambushed/Camoflaged Bunker 1-NVA observed 1-Wia ***** 10May69 ***** Co. D and Yankee Command- Perimeter Attacked by a platoon size Enemy force at LZ/Small-arms/RPG's/ChiCom Grenades 5-Kia's and 8-Wia's
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:49 pm to eitek1
this part might be your answer...
Co. A- Explosion of M-26 Grenade/Accidental/Friendly inside perimeter 6-Wia's *
Co. A- Explosion of M-26 Grenade/Accidental/Friendly inside perimeter 6-Wia's *
Posted on 4/7/18 at 4:01 pm to eitek1
Sorry that wasnt it... This is, hope it helps.
***** 25May69 ***** Co. B- Mortar Attack/82mm mortars/one round into the increments pit of the Companies 81mm Mortars, setting them on fire, fire spread to the 81mm ammo in the ammo pit, this started the 81mm ammo going off, and the fire spread to a pallet of 81mm ammo near the position, causing it to EXPLODE. Marines attempting to put out the fire before the Explosion got to close. The explosion caused lots of Casualities, forced the Company to move off the hill, and prevented any Medivacs that night. Company B sustained 8-Kia's, 29-Wia's and had 2-MIA's from this Accident/Friendly Fire incident. ***** 27May69 ***** Co. C- Mortar Attack/82mm mortars 1-Kia and 2-Wia's ****
***** 25May69 ***** Co. B- Mortar Attack/82mm mortars/one round into the increments pit of the Companies 81mm Mortars, setting them on fire, fire spread to the 81mm ammo in the ammo pit, this started the 81mm ammo going off, and the fire spread to a pallet of 81mm ammo near the position, causing it to EXPLODE. Marines attempting to put out the fire before the Explosion got to close. The explosion caused lots of Casualities, forced the Company to move off the hill, and prevented any Medivacs that night. Company B sustained 8-Kia's, 29-Wia's and had 2-MIA's from this Accident/Friendly Fire incident. ***** 27May69 ***** Co. C- Mortar Attack/82mm mortars 1-Kia and 2-Wia's ****
Posted on 4/7/18 at 4:03 pm to eitek1
Thanks 
Seems like the official reports I've seen just kind of skip over about the entire week surrounding May 25th. At least what's available publicly on the internet. Odd because I've been able to find basically step by step descriptions of most of the rest of the operation, but no official mentions around the time of an incident that left 13 KIA, 2 MIA, and 29 WIA... You'd think something like that would be mentioned.
Also find it odd that only lists 1 MIA from the entire operation, when I've seen 2 listed as MIA just from the day I'm talking about. I guess they could have found one of the missing later on, but Idk
What I've gathered so far it was much worse than 6 WIA. Between those killed, missing, and wounded badly enough to have to leave the unit lost over 40 marines that day.
Also it supposedly happened May 25th, and my uncle and others killed with him are all listed as "KIA by Hostile Action, killed by mortar or artillery fire." So I wouldn't expect an official report to admit to friendly fire.
Seems like the official reports I've seen just kind of skip over about the entire week surrounding May 25th. At least what's available publicly on the internet. Odd because I've been able to find basically step by step descriptions of most of the rest of the operation, but no official mentions around the time of an incident that left 13 KIA, 2 MIA, and 29 WIA... You'd think something like that would be mentioned.
Also find it odd that only lists 1 MIA from the entire operation, when I've seen 2 listed as MIA just from the day I'm talking about. I guess they could have found one of the missing later on, but Idk
quote:
this part might be your answer...
Co. A- Explosion of M-26 Grenade/Accidental/Friendly inside perimeter 6-Wia's *
What I've gathered so far it was much worse than 6 WIA. Between those killed, missing, and wounded badly enough to have to leave the unit lost over 40 marines that day.
Also it supposedly happened May 25th, and my uncle and others killed with him are all listed as "KIA by Hostile Action, killed by mortar or artillery fire." So I wouldn't expect an official report to admit to friendly fire.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 4:05 pm to eitek1
yes, that's it. I actually haven't seen that report before, so thank you
Weird how nearly every account I find lists a different number of those KIA...
Weird how nearly every account I find lists a different number of those KIA...
Posted on 4/7/18 at 4:06 pm to Hoovertigah
Do I know you?
Posted on 4/7/18 at 4:08 pm to eitek1
Great job on that. I believe that might be what you're looking for, OP.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 4:12 pm to PetroBabich
have you served your country honorably, if not don't ask such a stupid question.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 4:12 pm to Kcrad
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Kcrad
You are a real dick.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 4:13 pm to vjp819
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He didn’t report to boot camp until 1971, and served in VN until 1972.
I didn't say no one was drafted and served in S. Vietnam in 1971. I said most combat troops were out of S. Vietnam by late 1971. Support troops were still in country in large numbers. Combat units were being pulled out in 1971 due to the Vietnamization program.
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