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re: Any OT pilots?
Posted on 8/11/15 at 10:54 pm to bhtigerfan
Posted on 8/11/15 at 10:54 pm to bhtigerfan
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I've got a good friend who's an S-92 (their largest chopper) captain and he'll make well over $100k this year. PHI just instituted a fairly large pay increase across the board last year to stem pilot attrition.
I would be surprised if a "wet behind the ears" pilot with minimum hours was handed an S-92 as their first helicopter.
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Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:18 pm to Sandy_Ash
quote:Oh hell no. He flew Apaches in the Army and now Blackhawks for the National Guard. At PHI and others, most pilots start out as copilot in the smaller choppers before upgrading to captain
I would be surprised if a "wet behind the ears" pilot with minimum hours was handed an S-92 as their first helicopter.
BTW, I'm a LA Tech grad in aviation. I flight instructed for a couple years after college, then bush pilot in Alaska, corporate pilot in LA, then flew 727's for a cargo airline in Europe for 2 years and stateside for 2 more.
I would probably advise the kid to get a degree at any college and get his licenses while going to school and summer. It's going to cost you a shite load though. You may want to look into buying a partnership in a trainer like a Cessna 152 to save some cash. It's crazy expensive compared to when I got all of my licenses.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:51 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Don't get an aviation degree. It's useless. Get a real degree and get private instruction or join the military after college. However
This, when you reach middle age a lot of common medical conditions can land you on the ground possibly for good, having some type of business or engineering degree would be nice to have if you need to start a second career. At most of the colleges with aviation programs you can major in something other than aviation and still pursue pilot training as electives.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:56 am to revoh5
I'm sure it's been covered extensively already but if it hasnt. Do not waste your money on riddle.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 5:28 am to momentoftruth87
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There's no fixed wing in the Army bro only helicopters
Lol you dumb
Posted on 8/12/15 at 5:53 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
How so please enlighten me
Posted on 8/12/15 at 6:05 am to momentoftruth87
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The EO-5, RC-12 and B-300 are classified as special electronic mission aircraft and provide real-time intelligence collection in peace and wartime environments. The C-12, C-26 and UC-35 are classified as transport aircraft and provide direct fixed-wing support to warfighting combatant commanders worldwide. The C-20 and C-37 are classified as executive transport for the chiefs of staff and the service secretaries.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 6:13 am to Sandy_Ash
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Flying for a rich dude is nice , until the economy takes a big dive. Then, that plane is the first thing to go.
Flying private , a lot of up side , but a lot of risk as well.
Airline pilots get furloughed in huge numbers during economic downturns
Posted on 8/12/15 at 6:19 am to revoh5
I've shared my story here before. I started doing flight training out of high school at a local airport while starting college classes. By the time I finished my degree I had all my ratings. I got a job with a corporate flight department, basically doing whatever they would let me, washing planes, answering phones, etc and working for beans so they would let me in the cockpit. I had a blast but in 4 years I was laid off twice due to owners selling planes, economy, etc. During that time I got married, and I decided to start looking for something more stable. I looked at the airlines, but the quality of life and minimum wage pay starting out for the first several years to me just wasn't worth it. I now work for a business jet manufacturer and although I don't fly, I get to ride around in the back and travel all over meeting some of the most influential people in the world.
I'll share the best 2 pieces of advice I got when I was starting out. 1. DONT GET AN AVITION DEGREE. Get a degree in something you might enjoy doing if you couldn't fly anymore. Riddle is great, but not worth the money. I flew with guys in their mid 40s still paying off huge loans. It's just not worth it in my opinion.
2. Just because you love aviation, you don't have to be a pilot. There are tons of jobs out there with better pay and quality of life that still allow you to have lots of fun in this business. A mentor explained it to me by saying if you love golf, you don't have to play on the PGA. You can run a course, be a supplier, give lessons, etc to still be around the game everyday. Look around and see what else is out there before committing to one path.
As someone who's been there, it's hard to talk to a 17 year old about quality of life and family time, pay, etc. If I could go back and tell 17 year old me anything, it would be that if you really want to fly, join the military. They will pay for school and training, and nothing looks better on a pilot resume at my company than being a military aviator.
I'll share the best 2 pieces of advice I got when I was starting out. 1. DONT GET AN AVITION DEGREE. Get a degree in something you might enjoy doing if you couldn't fly anymore. Riddle is great, but not worth the money. I flew with guys in their mid 40s still paying off huge loans. It's just not worth it in my opinion.
2. Just because you love aviation, you don't have to be a pilot. There are tons of jobs out there with better pay and quality of life that still allow you to have lots of fun in this business. A mentor explained it to me by saying if you love golf, you don't have to play on the PGA. You can run a course, be a supplier, give lessons, etc to still be around the game everyday. Look around and see what else is out there before committing to one path.
As someone who's been there, it's hard to talk to a 17 year old about quality of life and family time, pay, etc. If I could go back and tell 17 year old me anything, it would be that if you really want to fly, join the military. They will pay for school and training, and nothing looks better on a pilot resume at my company than being a military aviator.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:12 am to revoh5
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We are looking at La Tech and their aviation program.
FWIW, I have a friend that did this. Had a ton of hours, graduated very high in his class. He got laid off three times in 16 months from the airline industry. He's now teaching school.
It appears that guys with military experience are preferred.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:17 am to elprez00
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It appears that guys with military experience are preferred.
It's all about seniority in the airlines. Your buddy probably got hired right before 9/11 or the 2008 crash. Military time will get you hired before a civilian trained pilot but it won't keep you from getting furloughed
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:20 am to momentoftruth87
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:23 am to momentoftruth87
oh dear god You dumb.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:24 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
He has a point though. All army aviators are held pilots first and the chances of moving into fixed wing in the army are infinitesimally small
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:33 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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the chances of moving into fixed wing in the army are infinitesimally small
If you are talking about actually being called for a utilization tour the chances are small since the biggest Army requirement is for rotary wing. However I know a couple dozen fixed wing qualified pilots who went to the fixed wing course but have always been 64 pilots. So they have the certs and can do the FAA equivalency test for no cost to them.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:36 am to revoh5
Auburn as a very good aviation management program with a flight option. Worth looking into. I originally was going to go to Georgia, but wound up at AU to take up this program along with a USAF scholarship at the time.
Our son solo'ed at 16 in Atlanta and looked hard at various programs. One was Embry Riddle in Daytona. Very impressive. What impressed me most beyond the aviation part of ER, was the meteorology program they have, and also now a very good program on supply chain security. That security area is very hot in the job market as well.
Our son solo'ed at 16 in Atlanta and looked hard at various programs. One was Embry Riddle in Daytona. Very impressive. What impressed me most beyond the aviation part of ER, was the meteorology program they have, and also now a very good program on supply chain security. That security area is very hot in the job market as well.
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 7:39 am
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:48 am to slacker130
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There are many different ways to the cockpit. Some cost serious $ and some they pay you. Good luck to him.
Sounds like hot chicks versus fat chicks.
Posted on 8/12/15 at 7:50 am to revoh5
I just saw a commercial for evergladesu.com for their aviation program as I was reading this thread. 
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