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Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)

Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:26 am
Posted by PelicanPoop
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2013
583 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:26 am
Short of any smartass answers such as another Katrina, what is New Orleans' most likely best path for reducing crime? Of course it will never go away completely as there is crime everywhere (except OT ballers' neighborhoods).

My theory is the only hope for New Orleans is via the continuing "boutiquing" of the city. Rocketing rents, property taxes, gentrification will just continue to push the poor out. Criminals have to live somewhere, shower, sleep, eat somewhere. Will they just be pushed out to the Westbank and NO East as the inner city continues to gentrify? Don't most street criminals do their deeds not far from home?

Seems to me the biggest targets for the gays and hipsters (those are usually the urban pioneers to begin the gentrification process) would be West Carrollton/Leonidas, Holly Grove, and the 7th Ward.
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 8:27 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112556 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:27 am to
let them have jefferson parish
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:28 am to
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be West Carrollton/Leonidas, Holly Grove,


It's already started with Dublin St.
Posted by kyledavis
Member since Nov 2013
734 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:29 am to
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et them have jefferson parish


Only if we get to take back Orleans parish.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12455 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:30 am to
So what you are trying hard to say in a sneaky way. Is the more the population trends from black to white, crime will go down. We already know where the problem lies. But you are trying hard to be politically correct.
Posted by PelicanPoop
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2013
583 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:31 am to
Didn't San Francisco have crime issues before Silicon Valley exploded and all that tech money invested and took over SF?
Posted by IPlayedGreatTonight
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2012
1381 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:32 am to
7th Ward will eventually be gentrified. it's too close to vital areas and areas that have already been heavily gentrified. 7th Ward between Esplanade and the Bywater are close to some pretty decent areas full of wealthy-ish people who seem to have decided that the best way to fix alot of these issues is through gentrification. the East is beyond fixable, so they'll let the poor have it.

the biggest issue is that after Mitch, love him or hate him, there is no one who could potentially run for mayor who doesn't seem like a stereotypical New Orleans politician.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:35 am to
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the biggest issue is that after Mitch, love him or hate him, there is no one who could potentially run for mayor who doesn't seem like a stereotypical New Orleans politician.


Drew Brees
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8623 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:36 am to
The only way the serious violent crimes are going to be reduced is through community organized policing (COPS), which would require a huge influx of police officers. The officers get out of their cars and walk the streets and talk to residents constantly....to the point where criminals can no longer effectively lock down the community through fear of snitching, because snitching versus daily conversation with the police can't be discerned. This allows people to drop tips to the police as to who the problems are, and that problem can then be quickly dealt with.

When you utilize the current plan, which is 2-3 cars running around a district, going from call to call and doing no patrolling, you're destined to continue the current cycle.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36406 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:36 am to
economic development and education
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 8:37 am
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25731 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Will they just be pushed out to the Westbank and NO East as the inner city continues to gentrify?
This is the best scenario.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112556 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:38 am to
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Drew Brees



i came
Posted by IPlayedGreatTonight
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2012
1381 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:40 am to
I'd be more than willing to bet Brees hightails it back to San Diego when he retires.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112556 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:41 am to
wouldn't blame him one bit. SD is the shite.
Posted by PelicanPoop
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2013
583 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:41 am to
Which begs another question. What is economic development? It isn't opening another Dollar General and its minimum wage jobs. Does this mean something on the lines of Avondale skilled labor? Expanding the Port of New Orleans? I went to college for an office job. Not everyone is going to college. I would be a terrible candidate for welding or skilled labor.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21420 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:42 am to
Nagin had the answer: Chocolate City
Posted by prince of fools
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1130 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:43 am to
There will never be an absolute zero in crime rates. The best way to get rid of crime is to improve education and job opportunities.
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:46 am to
quote:

he only way the serious violent crimes are going to be reduced is through community organized policing (COPS), which would require a huge influx of police officers. The officers get out of their cars and walk the streets and talk to residents constantly....to the point where criminals can no longer effectively lock down the community through fear of snitching, because snitching versus daily conversation with the police can't be discerned. This allows people to drop tips to the police as to who the problems are, and that problem can then be quickly dealt with.


You do realize police officers are lazy tax collectors and do not want to do any actual police work?
Posted by deNYEd
Houston
Member since Jul 2007
9689 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:49 am to
Education is only real answer but real effects take 20 years and this is a what have you done lately business
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58108 posts
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:49 am to
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My theory is the only hope for New Orleans is via the continuing "boutiquing" of the city. Rocketing rents, property taxes, gentrification will just continue to push the poor out.


This is exactly what is happening. Oak Street, Bywater, Marigny, Freret St, Mid City, and hell, even some areas of central city too are all building up. It's a beautiful thing to see the turnaround happening.
Next up is Tulane Ave. Two to three new condo developments opened a few years ago and it shocked the shite out of me how well they sold.

Now some better restaurants and bars have opened. As the hospitals get closer to being done, it will boom like crazy.

It's not the perfect scenerio obviously becuase I would rather some real wholesale changes in the low IQ black culture of the few really bad areas left. I would love to see more drug rehab places and better job training, etc.

The schools are getting better and the influx of outsiders who care about the city have amazed me.

And yes, N.O. East and parts of Jefferson are taking in alot of trouble makers.
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