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re: Another " Am I being detained " cop video but this time officer loses his cool
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:13 pm to ApexTiger
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:13 pm to ApexTiger
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Odd, you have nothing to say about cops disrespecting citizens.
That's because this video isn't about a policemen disrespecting a citizen,it's the other way around is it not?
My experience on this board over cop stories is that people who take your position have had issues with police.
We've all had our own experiences that provide us the lens with which we view the world.
I've not had bad experiences with Police. I've always shown respect and it's always gone well for me in those very few instances.
They were both being disrespectful.
1. Camera guy had the right to drive in circles with a camera. Who knows what might have been captured on the camera if cops were bad and doing something wrong.
2. Cop had the right to ask why was he driving in circles. This should be expected. Probably many crimes have been stopped by police being aware of whats happening around them. However when it was determined that the camera guy was not a threat or doing anything illegal(and being stupid is not illegal) he should have been released and told to "move along, nothing to see here..."
I think a point that is not being made is that the police are supposed to hold themselves to a higher standard. He is not supposed to act like a douche just because camera guy is a douche. He is the one who is trained and is supposed to be mentally prepared for situations like this.
Overweight cop handled this situation poorly, other cop handled correctly. I think it is telling as to how overweight cop might react under other circumstances. If he is "disrespected" to a more severe degree would he shoot, taze, mace the person who was disrespecting him. Overweight cops superiors should use video in the training program of what not to do.
That being said I respect LEO's and the difficult job they do.
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:13 pm to ApexTiger
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Is Jesus repugnant to you?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:14 pm to Mo Jeaux
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he needs to respectfully answer their question.
Is that a legal requirement?
Nah... It just gets the juices flowing so we can have a nice video
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:14 pm to ApexTiger
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Is Jesus repugnant to you?
Lets keep the conversation in reality
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:15 pm to im4LSU
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Saw an episode of cops last night where a guy was just walking down the street with a bag on his shoulder and was pulled over, cuffed, and questioned. He wasn't breaking any laws, but he was exuding suspicious behavior.
Back in the 50's when I was in elementary school, we used to read about things that supposedly happened in the Soviet Union, like being arrested for printing something, and copying machines (mimeographs back then) having to be registered with the government, and telephones being tapped all the time and people being afraid to say anything, and police who could just beat you up and drag you away for any reason at all, or no reason.
And we used to be proud of that not being our country.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:15 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Exactly. The fact that you DON'T see officers who simply say, Oh...you're videoing me? Cool. I'm good at my job, so I have no issues with that at all. Be safe and have a great day." ought to tell you something. If they are not in the way and are not ACTUALLY interfering, then why not WANT them to video your stop to ensure no one claims you've done something bad?
Hell...if it would be within SOP, I'd buy my own damn go pro camera and wear it to protect myself from accusations if I knew I was a good cop.
I agree with your point, but this whole society of having the technology to almost literally video everything you see, and every situation, is still relatively new. And people have to adjust to that. Note also that people don't go around filming most other occupations as much as they film cops. Are there legit reasons for that? Sure. Are there a ton more non-legit reasons? Of course. But once people (and cops) get more used to that, things like this will become less and less of an issue IMO.
And I agree with you on the second part. If I were a cop, I'd have no problem with being filmed. Though let's remember that a lot of times, cops are filmed/recorded as job protocol.
And I'd also like to point out, as always, that a-hole, idiot cops are in the VAST minority. Most of them are good, law-abiding (adn law-enforcing) men and women. But you never hear about the good ones because nobody gives a shite about that.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:16 pm to ApexTiger
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Is Jesus repugnant to you?
He's irrelevant to me in a discussion about police officers.
But since you're incapable of having a discussion without involving religion, there are quite a few things about Jesus that I find distasteful. None of them have anything to do with the issue at hand, but you knew that going in to the question.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:17 pm to ApexTiger
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Sir or ma'am, you evidently don't' understand humility or respect and how that works in real life.
Actually I do, it's called professionalism. Look it up.
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I understand full well, that people on this board like it when cops get screwed with because usually they have had run ins w/ police and think all police are bad human beings running around with an attitude and gun.
You really don't get it. Maybe if you had been paying moremore attention you'd understand that the reason these videos are happening more often is because there are too many bad apples in the LEO community and the good ones that make up the vast majority are doing little to nothing to police their own.
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Fine, it's legal, but it's not cool and it just takes away from the police doing their job.
It didn't take one iota away from this officer and his job. Had he been more professional he could have walked away at any time after he new he was being setup. The other cop figured it out, maybe you should take note.
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And you can bet because of this experience this policeman is going to have more attitude with the public not less.
Then he won't be much longer in his career. Bet on that.
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I think you are dead wrong and I hope to God none of you are raising punks that do this.
I think you have your head planted firmly in your arse. I would certainly never raise a kid to think being a boot licker like a growing segment of their peers is acceptable.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:18 pm to CocomoLSU
By the way, I'd bet a mollion bucks that the kid in this video was that one a-hole kid when you are younger that an adult tells him to stop touching you and he does the finger point in your face "I'm not touching you.." bullshite.
And I bet he got his arse kicked too.
And I bet he got his arse kicked too.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:18 pm to tokenBoiler
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Back in the 50's when I was in elementary school, we used to read about things that supposedly happened in the Soviet Union, like being arrested for printing something, and copying machines (mimeographs back then) having to be registered with the government, and telephones being tapped all the time and people being afraid to say anything, and police who could just beat you up and drag you away for any reason at all, or no reason.
And we used to be proud of that not being our country.
Back in the 50's the SCOTUS did not provide you anything close to the protection it provides now. If you were black and driving in MS or LA it was nothing to pull you from the car and beat you within an inch of your life.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:20 pm to DanTiger
For the most part, cops suck donkey balls. That is all.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:22 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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GeauxTigerTM
Like I said, some of the biggest pusses I've ever encountered
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:24 pm to League Champs
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Like I said, some of the biggest pusses I've ever encountered
You're literally one of the ten worst posters on the site. Congrats on that distinction...you've earned it.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:25 pm to League Champs
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Like I said, some of the biggest pusses I've ever encountered
tell me more about how a public schools = a public area
Who new Google Maps was such a criminal organization?
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:25 pm to ArmyHogs
Some of you people don't seem to understand that just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD.
The kid is a douche trying to stir up shite then he gets pissy when he smells the stench. I'm not saying the cop is in the right because he's not but wouldn't you be pissed if some kid comes to your place of work with the sole intention of attempting to get you fired? I know I would. I hate these little shits who drive around with the sole purpose of provoking a cop to do wrong.
The kid is a douche trying to stir up shite then he gets pissy when he smells the stench. I'm not saying the cop is in the right because he's not but wouldn't you be pissed if some kid comes to your place of work with the sole intention of attempting to get you fired? I know I would. I hate these little shits who drive around with the sole purpose of provoking a cop to do wrong.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:26 pm to novabill
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What cops do is none of our business? Really?
I guess I have my answer. You have a reading comprehension problem
The dipshite was filming a private citizen being asked personal questions by a cop. He has every right to expect privacy in their car, which the Supremes have said is an extension of their home. Recording that conversation is no ones business, and illegal
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:27 pm to League Champs
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The dipshite was filming a private citizen being asked personal questions by a cop. He has every right to expect privacy in their car, which the Supremes have said is an extension of their home. Recording that conversation is no ones business, and illegal
Roads are considered a public space and recording is considered a part of free speech.
Your point would be relevant if he tried to record from inside the car...
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:29 pm to alphaandomega
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They were both being disrespectful.
1. Camera guy had the right to drive in circles with a camera. Who knows what might have been captured on the camera if cops were bad and doing something wrong.
2. Cop had the right to ask why was he driving in circles. This should be expected. Probably many crimes have been stopped by police being aware of whats happening around them. However when it was determined that the camera guy was not a threat or doing anything illegal(and being stupid is not illegal) he should have been released and told to "move along, nothing to see here..."
I think a point that is not being made is that the police are supposed to hold themselves to a higher standard. He is not supposed to act like a douche just because camera guy is a douche. He is the one who is trained and is supposed to be mentally prepared for situations like this.
Overweight cop handled this situation poorly, other cop handled correctly. I think it is telling as to how overweight cop might react under other circumstances. If he is "disrespected" to a more severe degree would he shoot, taze, mace the person who was disrespecting him. Overweight cops superiors should use video in the training program of what not to do.
That being said I respect LEO's and the difficult job they do.
reasonable
but who started all of this nonsense? The idiot who committed the crime and then the nosy citizen with a camera, so I side with the police not the one testing the law "enforcement".
if my son ever did something like this,I would be upset.
Either you are making a difference is a positive way or you're not. Be a good citizen, gezz!
Some of you think this kid's efforts are meaningful because it holds cops to high standards. I don't think being a distraction is the right way to go about that cause. I think it plants the wrong seed because it's done in a spiteful way.
I've attended a cop's funeral... I think everyone of you should if you haven't. The honor they show for one another is to be admired. Yet we endorse mickey mouse behavior because it's "lawful" and give little to no honor and mock a man's weight.
I reckon that's what makes America great, we have the freedom and rights to be stupid and be disrespectful to our government and those who serve us. In the end, I support that 'freedom"... but I rebuke the punk attitude and arrogance because it's a lack of appreciation.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:30 pm to TreyAnastasio
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No
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:32 pm to League Champs
LEO's have no expectation of privacy in the performance of their duties in public. Courts have decided this several times, even against bullshite idiots like you who think it trips wire tapping laws.
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