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re: And yet another pitbull killing a child story...

Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:34 pm to
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the fact that is was another pitbull killing a child. That isn't conjecture or click bait, it's fact.


I get that, but the article can be written and read two different ways.

This is similar to starting a thread, "Another terrible hot car claims the innocent life of a child due to warm temperatures."


As for the neighbors with dogs, Yes I would concerned, with several dog breeds. I'm not trying to argue that pit bulls cant be aggressive. Some of yall need to see the bigger picture. If my neighbor had aggressive dogs, I would take every step necessary to prevent them from entering my yard and exercise caution when my child is outside. At the end of the day, I can't do anything about my neighbor owning the dog. Now, if the dog is repeatedly barking, escaping or gnawing at the bottom of the fence, I'm going handle it legally. I'm not going to get on a message board and ask that an entire breed is wiped from the planet.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:34 pm to
Dogs should be on a leash in public but if you are scared of a leashed pitbull, then don't got where leashed dogs are allowed or leave if you see one.
This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39836 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:36 pm to
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but if you are scared of a leashed dog, don't got where leashed dogs are allowed.
That's a preposterous construct and a complete warping of the social contract. I'm not "scared of a leashed dog". I'm just pointing out that a pitbull on leash in public is not the same risk profile as most other dogs in public. Why should the onus for any of this be on the vast majority of us who don't choose to walk around with coiled springs as pets?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45118 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:43 pm to
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I get that, but the article can be written and read two different ways.
Well of course it can. But the author is stressing that another pitbull has killed a child. He's stressing the fact that this fricking breed of dog kills human beings. I don't have a problem with it.

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39836 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:47 pm to
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This is similar to starting a thread, "Another terrible hot car claims the innocent life of a child due to warm temperatures."
If the dog is that dangerous, then it doesn't matter if the adults are present or not.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22271 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:48 pm to
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Scooba


You go ahead and keep defending a dangerous breed... Until you have a family member torn to shreds by one. Then I'd imagine your ridiculous opinion of a certain type of animal will change, just like mine did.
This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 2:02 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49394 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:53 pm to
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But would you leave your child unattended with a gun?

Would you leave your 3 week old unattended with a pit?



It is literally impossible for a three week old to fire a gun. I'm not saying its a good idea but it's no near the same risk as leaving the baby alone with a pit bull.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49394 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:58 pm to
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This is similar to starting a thread, "Another terrible hot car claims the innocent life of a child due to warm temperatures."


Let us know the next time a car strolls up on his a kid all by its own cognition, throws the kid in the backseat, and locks the doors.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:58 pm to
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quote:but if you are scared of a leashed dog, don't got where leashed dogs are allowed. That's a preposterous construct and a complete warping of the social contract. I'm not "scared of a leashed dog". I'm just pointing out that a pitbull on leash in public is not the same risk profile as most other dogs in public. Why should the onus for any of this be on the vast majority of us who don't choose to walk around with coiled springs as pets?


And a big arse truck is much more dangerous on the road relative to a camry but I'm not going to argue for trucks to be banned for the safety of us respectable sedan driving folk.

A pitbull on a leash CAN be dangerous, it can also be fine. A german shepherd, Rottweiler, American bulldog, bull terrier, malinois, Burmese mountain dog all CAN be dangerous on leashes.

How many of these "pitbull attack" stories are dogs out in public on leashes - the answer is not many. These dog breeds are dominant and protective, which shows itself primarily at their home where they are instinctively more protective.

To answer your question, go to a park which doesn't allow dogs and go across the street if you see someone walking a scary dog on the sidewalk.
This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39836 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:00 pm to
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And a big arse truck is much more dangerous on the road relative to a camry but I'm not going to argue for trucks to be banned for the safety of us respectable sedan driving folk.
OK
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20014 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:09 pm to
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You go ahead and keep defending a dangerous breed.


I have not defended the breed except to say that it's ignorant to call for widespread extermination. Had you read my previous posts, you would see that I agree that they can be aggressive.

Some of you are so narrow minded and enjoy jumping on the OT narrative that ignores the fault of the parents.

Here is your Jump on buddy.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22271 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:19 pm to
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enjoy jumping on the OT narrative that ignores the fault of the parents.


On the contrary, I am one of the few people who can speak on this subject from personal family experience. You see, my great aunt was walking one day as she did every day for exercise , and though her kids always told her to avoid certain parts of the town they live in, she did not listen. 2 pitbulls jumped their fence and proceeded to maul her. She died in the hospital that night.

So please tell me how I am on the band wagon. Please tell me how my distrust of the whole breed is misplaced. Go on, because as we can all see here, you have the moral high ground and the rest of us don't know what we are talking about. Well, for once, you ran into a person who does know exactly what he is talking about.

The fricking cops had to shoot the dogs to get them off of her. Pepper spray? Nothing. Night Stick? Didn't phase them.

You see, by their nature, pits don't bite defensively. They bite to kill. A "bad" golden retriever will bite your leg and stop when you try to get away, because he just wants you to leave. He's scared of you too. Pits want to kill you. That is in their code. You can't train it out of them. You fricked with them and the price is death.

This little kid set them off and paid the price.

frick pitbulls and anyone who owns them or advocates for them.

This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 2:21 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39836 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:20 pm to
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go to a park which doesn't allow dogs
ALmost all parks allow dogs.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40491 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:22 pm to
we have had a pit since my kids were 4 and 5 they are now 17 and 16 and never had any issues at all. But keep living in your lil world. Its not the dog its how they are raised, and also... frick you too
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39836 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:22 pm to
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You see, by their nature, pits don't bite defensively. They bite to kill. A "bad" golden retriever will bite your leg and stop when you try to get away, because he just wants you to leave. He's scared of you too. Pits want to kill you. That is in their code. You can't train it out of them. You fricked with them and the price is death.
I don't see why some people are so unwilling to acknowledge the inherent level of risk is simply higher. It's like Islam. The obscurantists want to really really really make it seem as if "all religions" are on the same footing. They just aren't.
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
9174 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:49 pm to
Breed of peace strikes again. Seriously, make it illegal to breed anymore Pitbulls and let them die out.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150253 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:51 pm to
I this is so dam sad...

Rest I peaxe sweet little angle
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21847 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:55 pm to
PB = the Devil.

Parents should get jail time - seriously.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20014 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:57 pm to
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Please tell me how my distrust of the whole breed is misplaced.


OK.

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though her kids always told her to avoid certain parts of the town they live in, she did not listen.


And your conclusion is...

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frick pitbulls and anyone who owns them or advocates for them.


Come on man. I'm sorry for your loss, but you're very one sided on this issue, and rightfully so. There is a compromise to those available to listen, however your mind, as well as many others, was made up well before opening this thread. This discussion is getting lost through text so I will agree to disagree.
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
5235 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 2:58 pm to
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I've owned pitbulls for 30 years and never once had an issue with aggression towards anyone, especially children.



Same old crap over and over....these mutts should be banned period!
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