re: And this is why I’m for public gruesome executions

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Do you know what proportionately means?

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Certainly. Are you implying that black men get the death penalty more than other men because of the amount of melanin in their skin, and not the fact that they commit a much higher proportion of capital murders?

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And that has nothing to do with the concentration/percentage of black men who live in southern/death penalty states, or the fact that black men commit the majority of murders in this country?

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I don’t do capital work, so this isn’t my wheelhouse, but my understanding is that with all variables accounted for, a black man who goes to trial for a capital offense is more likely than a similarly situated white man who goes to trial for a capital offense to receive a sentence of death if he is convicted.

But like I said, not really my wheelhouse, so I don’t have detail.

So you don't know what it means. If 10 black males are convicted of murder and 5 of them are sentenced to death, and 10 white males are convicted of murder and only one is sentenced to death, then PROPORTIONATELY more...

You know what. frick it.

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I don’t do capital work, so this isn’t my wheelhouse, but my understanding is that with all variables accounted for, a black man who goes to trial for a capital offense is more likely than a similarly situated white man who goes to trial for a capital offense to receive a sentence of death if he is convicted.

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Similarly situated. That would have to be proven to me. Almost no two murder cases are the same.

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Ok let’s not interject facts into an emotional argument from the left.

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And you also don't know what proportionately means.

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Similarly situated. That would have to be proven to me. Almost no two murder cases are the same.

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Appreciated, and like I said, this isn’t a practice area for me, so I can’t really speak with any authority on the subject. I’m simply trying to explain what the other gentleman is trying to convey.

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So you don't know what it means. If 10 black males are convicted of murder and 5 of them are sentenced to death, and 10 white males are convicted of murder and only one is sentenced to death, then PROPORTIONATELY more...

You know what. frick it.

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Where do the men live? See, you can't throw all of this together, because the results are shite. If the 10 black men live in Arkansas (death penalty state) and the 10 white men live in California (non death penalty state) then your results are meaningless. Give me similar stats by state, and maybe you have something, but you still have to look at it case by case.

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See, you can't throw all of this together

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Says the guy that said EVERY murderer should be put to death "if we know they did it."

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still have to look at it case by case

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Holy Contradiction Batman.

Nobody is going to change their minds here. Y'all have a good day.

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Does your claim make a distinction

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Speaking of distinctions, did you know that crime rates are higher in death penalty states than those without it? Because you know, it is such a great deterrent.

Okay, bye bye now.

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Speaking of distinctions, did you know that crime rates are higher in death penalty states than those without it? Because you know, it is such a great deterrent.

Okay, bye bye now.

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I know you want out of this conversation, because common sense just doesn't apply to your arguments. I've already stated that deterrence doesn't factor into the equation at all for me, other than the fact that execution is a 100% effective deterrent against future crimes by the executed.

As far as crime rates, do you think maybe demographics have anything to do with it? Considering that roughly 6% of the population committed 49% of the murders in this country in 2019, I'd say ignoring it produces some great gothcha statements, with no substance attached.