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re: An aging America: Old people will outnumber children for the first time in US history

Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:07 am to
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:07 am to
Colonialism civilized large portions of the planet, and the British weren't able to sustain. Now you have places like Africa that are stuck between western and traditional cultures. Most of India and China is still wasting in poverty. Rivers in Africa are so over fished, land locked locals can't provide enough protein for daily living. They are rekting the planet.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:14 am to
None of that answers my question as to why it is artificial or why it is inflated.

The Demographic Transition model shows us that this is pretty much how all modern societies develop. The TFR in Turkey in 1950 for example was around 5.0, and is now at or below replacement. This pattern is true of pretty much everywhere, except for places in Sub-Saharan Africa. Development leads to declining TFR's.

And it's not true that colonialism civilized the planet. And I don't know what the relationship is between that civilization and birth rates. Nearly every colonial subject had much higher TFR after independence than they do now, and since TFR is closely linked with development, the clear conclusion is that those countries are becoming more developed, and were essentially undeveloped after colonization, despite this supposed civilization.

Also poverty levels are below 20% in India and China.
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 8:15 am
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
17004 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:14 am to
Can't wait for some of these geezers to die out, so we can move up in the job market. Heaven forbid they retire already
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260293 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:14 am to
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Rivers in Africa are so over fished, land locked locals can't provide enough protein for daily living. They are rekting the planet.


There's a shite load of planet with plentiful resources. The issue is migration patterns haven't kept up with resource use.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:31 am to
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They don't view having children as something rewarding or beneficial to society.


do you really want more liberals having children?


There is an inverse correlation to education level and number of children somebody has. Haven't you seen idiocracy?
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:33 am to
So it is going to be a while before the old whites die off until we can being to fix the mess these idiots left us.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4334 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:48 am to
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It's because modern white Americans, partcularly the more liberal ones, are selfish. They don't view having children as something rewarding or beneficial to society. It's all about them. Making sacrifices are not something they do.



Found the guy who married too early and is now jealous of his single buddies' freedom.

Selfish? At whose expense? My nonexistent children? Conservatarian, btw.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:06 am to
Very responsible of you to hand your country over!
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:07 am to
You are a degenerate, not a conservative
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260293 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:08 am to
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before the old whites die off


I've never heard of anyone with as much hate for white people as you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260293 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:09 am to
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so we can move up in the job market.


You must be a union guy.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:10 am to
I would imagine anybody who expressed these thoughts about anybody besides white people would be banned or at least get a big warning.

Go on Twitter, his views are mainstream
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 9:11 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260293 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:12 am to
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I would imagine anybody who expressed these thoughts about anybody besides white people would be banned or at least get a big warning.


He's a public school teacher. I imagine his poor students are getting daily doses of hate.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4334 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:17 am to
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You are a degenerate


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Collegedropout




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not a conservative


Your reading comprehension sucks but whatever. I'd love to hear how you came to this conclusion based on nothing whatsoever.
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11086 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:19 am to
Time to invest in the diaper industry
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:21 am to
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Nah, i'd say it's being responsible. If you're working a job that barely supports yourself you shouldn't be having children.


I think the point is that priorities have changed. It's not about being responsible as much as it's about caring about other things instead.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:23 am to
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I think the point is that priorities have changed. It's not about being responsible as much as it's about caring about other things instead.


Old white guys definition of responsible isn't the only way to be responsible. If you don't break the law and pay your bills why are you not responsible? I'm glad people are having less kids, most people are retarded. First exhibit, this site.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:25 am to
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Selfish? At whose expense? My nonexistent children? Conservatarian, btw.


At the expense of whatever your belief system is. If you feel like the country is heading in the wrong direction, one of the most fundamental ways to change it is to raise children.

I know that sounds dramatic, but on a micro scale, it's true.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:26 am to
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Old white guys definition of responsible isn't the only way to be responsible. If you don't break the law and pay your bills why are you not responsible? I'm glad people are having less kids, most people are retarded. First exhibit, this site.


As I said, it's not about responsibility, it's about a change in priorities. People aren't waiting to have kids because they can't afford them, they're waiting to have kids because they can't afford both kids and their higher priorities.

I'm not suggesting either side is right, but it's the truth.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:31 am to
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As I said, it's not about responsibility, it's about a change in priorities. People aren't waiting to have kids because they can't afford them, they're waiting to have kids because they can't afford both kids and their higher priorities.

I'm not suggesting either side is right, but it's the truth.




I live pretty cheaply but if I had a kid right now I wouldn't be able to give him/her the life I'd want it to have. I also recognize that I am not ready to be a father. I don't see this as having higher priorities, it is more a recognition of my flaws.

Birth control has a lot to do with it as well. I can't judge folks for wanting to have consequence free sex. I want that too lol. Without birth control I would probably have a kid by now and would have to raise it in less than ideal conditions.
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