re: American public and diet- uninformed, dumb, or don't care?

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Processed deli meats are some of the worst things you can put in your body IMO. So much sodium and fat.

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You don't have to order deli meats on your sandwich. Sometimes I get the Veggie Delight on wheat. No cheese. No Mayo. How is that unhealthy?

The amount of sodium it takes to make any difference in the human body is astounding. Some salty deli meat is not going to cause hypertension.

I agree. Never said it couldn't be done.

It's education (or lack there of). It's shocking how many people don't understand that weight loss is about a calorie deficit "healthy" or "unhealthy" has absolutely zero to do with it.

I eat three Oreos almost every night. And I probably eat healthier than most here. And certainly healthier than the masses.

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but all calories are not the same.

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For weight loss, yes they are.

I think it's more laziness and ignorance than DGAF. Most obese people do not want to be obese and they lack the drive and knowledge of how to escape their unhealthy lifestyle.

Also, the America we live in is absolutely insane when it comes to food options and portion size and caters to people's unhealthy lifestyles.

#1, Subway is healthier than most fast food options but you've got to avoid the mayo and cheese. I lost 80 pounds and Subway was a big part of it. I work 12-14 hours a day and while I brought my own lunch in most days, when I had to eat out it was almost always Subway. Oven roasted chicken breast on wheat with no mayo or cheese for the win.

#2, Poor Americans are often fat Americans for the same reasons. They are short-sighted and lazy, so they often make bad decisions across a broad spectrum of their lives. They take the quick, easy way out in multiple arenas and don't make the tough choice by investing in themselves for the future. Stuffing their face with fast food meals twice a day is just another manifestation of that.

#3, As it's been stated, portion control is outrageous. I haven't been to a McDonald's or Burger King in about three years. But when my friends go and come back with a "medium" drink that's too large to fit in their car's cupholder, something is wrong.

#4, The only way to lose weight and keep it off is through a lifestyle change. Swearing off pizza or fast food for 30 days won't do jack shite until you "unlearn" your love of that garbage. I went from eating shite to forcing myself off fast food and soda to not wanting it whatsoever. I craved the hell out of it for several months. Then one day after a hard workout and reaching a weight loss benchmark, I treated myself to a double quarter pounder meal for old times sake. I felt like shite for almost 24 hours. Now I don't even crave that crap anymore. If I can do it, anyone on here could manage it. If you give up fast food and processed foods for a year, I promise you your body will struggle to digest it ever again.

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Why does everyone on the OT work 12-14 hours a day? You people must be miserable.

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Nah, I love my job. It's not like I work in a factory or anything. I've got a lot of freedom, get to travel and don't punch a time clock. Hell, I'm working now.