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re: Amazon to roll out electric vans to fight climate change
Posted on 9/19/19 at 5:44 pm to Obtuse1
Posted on 9/19/19 at 5:44 pm to Obtuse1
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Maybe when the slimy politicians are pushing for getting to a point B that is actually good for the country and the economy we shouldn't spend our time pushing back,
What? Hell no. That makes no sense at all because youre giving up everything to get to Point B.
Like another poster said, its a massive power grab. The Green New Deal, while completely ridiculous on its own regarding the climate, includes free healthcare for everyone, minimum wage increases, etc. So while we are saying we are saving the world, oh by the way lets add all this other shite along with it
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Posted on 9/19/19 at 5:46 pm to Obtuse1
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Maybe when the slimy politicians are pushing for getting to a point B that is actually good for the country and the economy we shouldn't spend our time pushing back, just for the sake of pushback
An incredible oversimplification to the point it's worthless.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 9/19/19 at 5:50 pm to Korkstand
Anyone know if Michael Moore's upcoming documentary dunks on electric vehicles?
Posted on 9/19/19 at 5:55 pm to Deactived
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The Green New Deal, while completely ridiculous on its own regarding the climate, includes free healthcare for everyone, minimum wage increases, etc. So while we are saying we are saving the world, oh by the way lets add all this other shite along with it
The Paris Climate Accord was basically just massive a wealth redistribution from rich countries to poor ones.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 5:57 pm to Korkstand
That's interesting, but I'm not sure 35% really makes it a slam dunk. You could get close to that by just taxing the crap out of non-commercial trucks- which I support.
And I'd be OK with $8 gasoline, too, but electric cars simply don't appeal to me. Seems like you're getting a lot less for your money... my car can *make* electricity, FFS.
And I'd be OK with $8 gasoline, too, but electric cars simply don't appeal to me. Seems like you're getting a lot less for your money... my car can *make* electricity, FFS.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:01 pm to TejasHorn
Those rivian vehicles are the real deal. May overtake Tesla in a few years
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:03 pm to fallguy_1978
There is something to climate change, but no one really wants to do something about it because they're selling fear. Overstating the effects to scare people into one day allowing more govt control of the economy. That's the most important part of climate change
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:08 pm to Parade Grounds
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:09 pm to TejasHorn
Who gives a frick what kind of vehicle a CEO wants to use for his deliveries?
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:12 pm to USMEagles
quote:If your vehicle could get 35% better gas mileage, you wouldn't consider that a slam-dunk no-brainer decision?!
That's interesting, but I'm not sure 35% really makes it a slam dunk.
And again, that's worst case, 100% of power comes from FF. With a more realistic mix of 65% as currently comes from fossil fuels, the 27% total efficiency figure jumps to over 40%, which is a 100% improvement over ICE engines.
So what it boils down to is, for those who argue that it's basically pointless to drive an EV because the power still comes from fossil fuels, an EV goes twice as far per pound of fossil fuels consumed. Further, as we continue to transition to non-FF energy sources, all of the EVs already on the road automatically get an "upgrade" in this department.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:14 pm to bigberg2000
quote:Evidently there are lots of people in this country that do not want the US to be a global leader in energy and transportation technology. It is odd.
Who gives a frick what kind of vehicle a CEO wants to use for his deliveries?
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:16 pm to USMEagles
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but electric cars simply don't appeal to me.
I kinda want one. They are perfect around here. More Nissan Leafs on the roadslocally than Maples or Cottonwoods
No roads connecting outside, EV stations everywhere... I might look at one next time I'm buying.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There is something to climate change, but no one really wants to do something about it because they're selling fear. Overstating the effects to scare people into one day allowing more govt control of the economy. That's the most important part of climate change
I don't doubt it's probably happening. I do think much more of it is natural than is being reported. I'm pretty skeptical of any laws or regulations that give additional power to the federal government. We are already much more environmentally conscientious than we were 40-50 years ago. It's happening naturally.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:27 pm to TejasHorn
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In his remarks, Bezos described the planet as the best in the solar system and said more needs to be done to take care of it.
I’ve always liked Venus too
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:29 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:Do you have any idea how many people had to protest, or how many got sick or died, and how many people lost property (or the ability to enjoy it), and how many billions have been spent on lawsuits, and how many regulations have been put in place as a result of all that, to make us more environmentally conscientious "naturally"?
We are already much more environmentally conscientious than we were 40-50 years ago. It's happening naturally.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There is something to climate change,
I mean, aren’t the polar ice caps melting? I don’t know if it’s bc of people or whatever but I’m pretty sure they’re melting.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:30 pm to TejasHorn
Good, at least someone is trying to do something about the crisis.
I applaud the man.
I applaud the man.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:31 pm to Parade Grounds
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Those rivian vehicles are the real deal. May overtake Tesla in a few years
If Ford can't get the electric F-150 to market in the next 3 years, I will strongly consider buying a Rivian. Still not sold on backing them into salt water, but we'll see.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:33 pm to Martini
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But they said it's not enough and they will still walk out Friday.
This is why you don't negotiate with terrorists.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:25 pm to TT9
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crisis
Political.
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