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re: Amazon employees in Alabama vote to NOT unionize.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:45 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:45 pm to fightin tigers
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Amazon bought that spot in NBR because it is close to what they need. Cheap labor that has few other options.
The unskilled labor pool in all of Louisiana is cheap.
They went with Cortana a giant site in a populated area intersected by two highways and didn’t flood. The site comes with preexisting connections for water, sewer, electricity, service road, multiple entry points, and a bus stop.
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:59 pm to dewster
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The unskilled labor pool in all of Louisiana is cheap.
Yeah, I don't have any insight, but I don't imagine Amazon has trouble getting cheap labor anywhere in the nation. I really don't think it would have anything to do with the specifics of their property purchase within a certain city.
Even in places like Washington, if you can handle your $$$, Amazon provides a solid place on a resume while you look for better employment or finish school.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:44 pm to upgrayedd
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A company that big and powerful will always treat their people like shite.
Only for low value employees.
High value employees can call their shots.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
UPS, FedEx, Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc all treat their employees better.
Amazon/AWS has a churn and burn style of management.
Amazon/AWS has a churn and burn style of management.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:18 pm to BeepNode
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Google, Apple, Microsoft
I bet the people these companies employ are a little different than an Amazon warehouse person.
And yes I know some Amazon corporate folks and they are treated very damn well. A lot of the payout is based on the performance of the company for them, but that is how it should be.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:59 pm to h0bnail
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I thought you had to be skilled to unionize.
I don’t consider janitors to be skilled but they have a union
Posted on 4/9/21 at 5:56 pm to Toroballistic
quote:In my state and I'm sure in others, Unions do a lot of good. Sure you have the run of the mill corrupt ones but in my line of work union reps are the ones who help set the wages for the industry for my state. You look at wages for the same job in other states and some are better and some are much lower. These jobs pay a lot better than 95% of the private sector in comparison.
You must be a union organizer.
This isn't some teacher union or other bullshite slacker type union where you get paid to sit on your arse and do jack shite. I'm not even in a union but I'm glad as frick that these union reps got us this great pay.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 5:58 pm to dewster
Ah yes. Because if you vote to unionize, to protect workers rights/work conditions/pay etc etc, it's going to turn you into a " socialist liberal". Or maybe they think "Unionizing" is supporting the Northern "Union Army" and no way is Johnny Reb going to do that! Good luck working slave labor at Amazon for minium pays and long hours. Idiots.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:21 pm to fightin tigers
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Some of these companies prey on poor people because they have no choice. Amazon bought that spot in NBR because it is close to what they need. Cheap labor that has few other options.
If labor is so cheap and available, and the workers have no other choice, why is Amazon paying well above the minimum wage?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:24 pm to YNWA
Honestly, I think the employees were foolish to reject the union. But, the no-vote was strong and now their decision should be supported.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:26 pm to KickPuncher
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In my state and I'm sure in others, Unions do a lot of good. Sure you have the run of the mill corrupt ones but in my line of work union reps are the ones who help set the wages for the industry for my state. You look at wages for the same job in other states and some are better and some are much lower. These jobs pay a lot better than 95% of the private sector in comparison.
Wages that are set artificially, and not determined by the local labor market for the skill set required will always end badly for the employees in the long term, simple economics.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 4/10/21 at 5:31 pm to EA6B
quote:How does the unions getting everyone a higher pay, bad economics? How does an employee making higher pay than most of the private sector, end badly for the employee again?
Wages that are set artificially, and not determined by the local labor market for the skill set required will always end badly for the employees in the long term, simple economics.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 7:53 pm to KickPuncher
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How does the unions getting everyone a higher pay, bad economics? How does an employee making higher pay than most of the private sector, end badly for the employee again?
I agree. Sometimes it’s hard to follow the logic around here. There’s an enduring opinion about the virtues of meritocracy, but most professionals are nothing more than interchangeable widgets. If work ethic and experience is truly important...why are people who get laid off in their 50s and 60s almost universally unemployable?
There’s no shortage of arguments that unions can negatively impact an economy. But, it’s because collective bargaining creates leverage for individuals that would otherwise be nothing more than a fungible object.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 8:16 pm to lsuconnman
The drivers are subcontractors. Amazon doesn’t even own the Amazon vans.
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