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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread

Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:36 pm to
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:36 pm to
That was hood as hell
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:36 pm to
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That CNN interview was great

cliffs please?
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:37 pm to
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I can say this emphatically, tackling a presumably armed man is not protocol


Almost any action they take will be questioned.

They don't go for the tackle with an opening and he does something crazy then it's why didn't they take action sooner.. Then again there's often situations that are delayed standoffs.. They could have kept talking it out with guns drawn on him if needed.. Not sure how effective it would have been.

But I admit I do question the tackle there. Perhaps bark out commands with warnings, he doesn't comply.. then shoot him once.. Then see where it goes from there.. but then people will cry they shot him just standing there too. Tell the man to get on his knees and hands behind his back.. He's obvious not going to respond. I just don't get the tackle. I would have rather they went after him together and pushed him against the car and cuffed his hands.. but the guy is a large man.. so who knows.

It's all easier said than done when the circumstances come.. this is why they train though..

I just hate when they shoot a guy several times in a situation that may not be needed.. I don't know that it was necessary and at least give the man a chance to survive.

Situations like this almost make police beatings a better option than such a fatal one. (I'm not really being serious) I'm just at a loss, I hate to see this for everyone involved.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:37 pm to
Which video? Link it
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:37 pm to
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Yeah except for the whole post I was responding to and quoted in my post. You serious Clark?

No, you did not "anyone recommending that the cops roll up with guns already drawn. By the way, you do realize that the police do draw their guns on armed and unarmed subjects all the time, don't you.

IMO, drawing guns on a presumably armed suspect, after he would not comply and was unaffected by tasers, is a safer option then tackling this presumably armed man. If your opinion is that tackling him is safer, we will just agree to disagree he and I will acvept it as your opinion.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 9:39 pm
Posted by drewnbrla
The Pool is closed.
Member since Mar 2011
7839 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:37 pm to
frick CNN, they're going the frick off on periscope. Talking about a war and shite. They interviewed the store owner before the crazy bitch went off about war.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 9:39 pm
Posted by Tino
:yawn:
Member since Dec 2004
86225 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:37 pm to
Your fingers have to be tired from typing the same thing over and over again for the past 12 hours
Posted by LurkingTigers
Member since Jun 2011
1544 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:37 pm to
The difference between the two was the kid had a gun. Btw I actually think the kid one was bad. But not by the guy that pulled the trigger, but by the cop driving the car that put the officer in the passenger seat in a bad spot.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32823 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:38 pm to
I agree re beatings, and also not serious.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:38 pm to
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I just hate when they shoot a guy several times in a situation that may not be needed.. I don't know that it was necessary and at least give the man a chance to survive.


As has been posted ad nauseum, shoot to kill is the policy. No room for error.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53562 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:38 pm to
I'm not really sure how to feel about that video, but that was disturbing.
Posted by zztop1234
Denham Springs
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by Bonjourno
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:40 pm to
LINK

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Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91836 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:40 pm to
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They are trained to attempt to apprehend the suspect without using lethal force if given the opportunity. The tackling officer saw an opportunity, they just weren't able to control him quick enough.



If that is the case we've had LEOs like FelicianaTigerFan arguing that restraining a suspect of his size is incredibly difficult in these circumstances. I'm to trying to search for fault in the officers' actions, but that is a legitimate question. If things were at a 10 at the beginning of the first video, the tackle took things to 100. Perhaps drawing their weapons take things to 100 too, and there are pros and cons to each decision, but others have acted like it is cut and dry and it is anything but.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37323 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:41 pm to
Totally justified
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14947 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:41 pm to
God damn the BR Police

Now the losers are protesting at the Ferguson PD, blocking the street again. And they said they will protest every night in support of BR and Alton.


FU BR
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86127 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

They shot a kid on a playground after rolling up in their vehicle guns drawn.

They call this a strawman. Well done.
quote:

They did know he was armed, or at least they should have.

Again, are you saying they should have approached him with guns drawn? Saying they knew? What a joke. Shows clearly your bias. The store owner has even gone on record as saying that this guy WASN'T the suspect. But cops should have known he was?

Come on.
Posted by Tino
:yawn:
Member since Dec 2004
86225 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:41 pm to
That looks like the same video from earlier, just zoomed in??
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40286 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

As has been posted ad nauseum, shoot to kill is the policy. No room for error.




this makes me so happy I live in a time where everyone has cameras.

Posted by SlowEasyConfident
Member since Nov 2015
6650 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:41 pm to
Damn I haven't seen that
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