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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread

Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:53 pm to
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:53 pm to
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The threshold to suggest he was trying to kill the police officers is ridiculous given the two videos we've seen.


I never said what his intentions were

Regardless of what was going on in his brain he made a move that can be interpreted as going for his gun whether his intention was to do so or not. That is clear from the video. His hand was up by his shoulder and the cop was trying to control it. He continues to try to free his hand and then moves it down by the pocket containing the gun.

You just don't want to accept it
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:53 pm to
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Oh it was MURDER here in BR????? Well you have answered my question. The dude was causing a problem and police were called. He did not comply... Oh well maybe he should have... How about his criminal record and carrying a gun??? Is that ok... Quit acting like this guy is so innocent.

You are such a doofus. You asked if I was OK with the murder of the raising canes girl. Stupid question. I responded why would I be OK with any murder. And from that you get that I am saying that the cops murdered this guy. You're such a tool . I have already emphatically stated that it was obvious that it least one cop feared for his life. I, as well as many others, have said it is not clear if he was reaching for the gun. That is in no way defending him. It is simply saying there's not enough information, in my opinion But you keep on with putting words in my mouth.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91836 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:54 pm to
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Anybody want to take a stab at why? Why does this kind of hearsay get admitted into evidence but other types of hearsay do not?


Party admission?
Posted by Mr Gardoki
AL
Member since Apr 2010
27652 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:54 pm to
Has boosie commented yet?
Posted by m1kedat1ger
Dark side of moon
Member since Oct 2013
550 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82738 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:54 pm to
I've taken crazy pills...HE HAD A GUN AND WAS RESISTING.
Posted by Shooter
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
9165 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

Officer takes gun out of his pocket in 2nd video.


They didn't know he was dead. They are trained to remove weapons from arms reach.
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
19456 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:55 pm to
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What else would he be doing with his right arm down around his waist area, while the cop at his legs is wrestling with his arm and yelling "Gun!!"??


Looking for his lottery ticket ? Remember when Boy George was caught in the men's room whipping 'skippy', that was his defense ?

Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7184 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:55 pm to
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Around 14 seconds in the second vid, right before they tell him not to move, he's clearly reaching with his right arm. Watch how his shoulder moves. IMO that is very clear.


I'm not saying he's not, but using the word clearly is an incredible stretch of the imagination.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 7:56 pm
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
11217 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:55 pm to
Unfortunately we've seen this play out before, over zealous cops in a quick second decision with a tenured criminal.
I've said it before that black cops should work with black complaints. A least the racism part is eliminated.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20703 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:55 pm to
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Well youcomeacroos as different in here as most.... But whatever.......

Somebody has to take the other side in order to make these threads interesting. It might as well be him.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
128255 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:55 pm to
FACTS
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
116842 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:55 pm to
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HE HAD A GUN AND WAS RESISTING.
Yeah, but he's a good boy.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89068 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:56 pm to
What else would he be doing with that motion? Getting in a quick jerk?

ETA: Notice I said reaching, not reaching for the gun.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 7:57 pm
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14695 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:56 pm to
You honestly don't see him pulling his arm up and back then down towards that pocket area... Doesn't mean he was definitely reaching for the gun but considering there was a gun in that pocket, they let him know they knew about it, they had a gun inches from his chest and he continued...makes it pretty reasonable to believe that he was reaching for the gun..

Maybe not though... He could've been just waving it around trying to keep his hand from being pinned.. I suspect his intent was to get the gun and get rid of it.. He was clearly not being rational and it led to his death, unfortunate for him.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:57 pm to
Sad thing is what a lose lose situation this is. Not only did someone lose their life, BR is gonna explode over this. If the investigation concludes officers were justified, the racial tension will explode. If it concludes they weren't justified, same will happen. Nobody will win this.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:57 pm to
It will be ruled as justified, plain and simple. The question is how much will be for how much money will BRPD settle with the family?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89068 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:58 pm to
That amount should be zero, but because of assholes like you, it won't be.
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
12700 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:58 pm to
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LIVE PERISCOPE FEED NBR


"I'm at 40%, when it gets to 9% I'm gonna shut down and get some juice in. Imma crank back up when we go downtown."

Aw frick no.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
40487 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:58 pm to
If the second video would have stayed on the fight, we may have possibly seen the victim going for his gun which is why the officer shot him a few more times as he was crawling away
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