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re: Allstate had a 259% increase in profits

Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:11 am to
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:11 am to
Unless a tree falls on your roof, roof replis normal wear and tear replacement. Does your auto insurance cover tires when you need new tires?
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4985 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:13 am to
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Unless a tree falls on your roof, roof replis normal wear and tear replacement. Does your auto insurance cover tires when you need new tires?


Not remotely close to the same.

How long have you been selling insurance?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41367 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:16 am to
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oh right because i dont have a fricking choice if i have a mortgage


Between mortgages and property taxes, the average citizen is always essentially renting land and home from someone else. It’s just not a landlord in the traditional sense but rather a bank or the government.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:17 am to
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If a customer truly deserves a settlement of 500k, why is an attorney entitled to 25% or more of said settlement that is intended to indemnify their client?


Because the insurer offered $50k before the lawyer got involved.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:18 am to
Insurance is the main reason everyone should be begging for fully autonomous self driving vehicles. Once that technology matures and is widespread vehicle accidents will drop to near zero and there will be zero reason to carry insurance other than to cover for theft or vandalism.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:18 am to
Haha. Never in my life. I only know of 5 people in my over 50 years that have ever filed a homeowner claim. And I live in Oklahoma where tornadoes aren't uncommon.

Frivolous claims lead to high insurance rates.

My homeowner insurance in Oklahoma is very reasonable. 2k a year for house, 2 shops and a barn.
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 11:21 am
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11112 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:18 am to
And if they deserved 500k, why do you deserve so much of that?
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11112 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:19 am to
Insurance will still be very much needed, it will just transfer the risk
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:22 am to
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Insurance will still be very much needed, it will just transfer the risk


Most car insurance exists to pay off ambulance chasing lawyers. That profession is gonna take a huge hit too.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84472 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:26 am to
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And if they deserved 500k, why do you deserve so much of that?


If they truly deserved $500k, why did the insurer only offer $50k before the lawyer got involved?

So the lawyer brought an additional $450k to the case and gets a percentage for doing so. And your gripe is that he charged a fee on the value he brought to the case that the insurer refused to pay before he got involved?
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3539 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:00 pm to
Lack of actual dollars screams hit piece.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84472 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:05 pm to
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Lack of actual dollars screams hit piece.


By an insurance industry publication?
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25598 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:09 pm to
I would rather see the increase in dollars rather than %.

A company could be on the verge of collapse with $1000 in profits, only to have an equally paltry $2480 in profits the next year - a 248% increase.

Posted by Tarps99
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Member since Apr 2017
11513 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:15 pm to
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This turnaround was largely attributed to enhanced claims management, which allowed Allstate to reduce claims payouts and optimize operational costs.


In other words, we increased deductibles to where most wind claims do not meet the threshold of a claim and increased rates to where customers are barely able to afford the premium and only keep the insurance because their mortgage requires it.
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 12:16 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119876 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:16 pm to
Lawyers working on contingency are fronting expenses such as experts, court costs, etc before any money is recovered. You’re also taking on a risk that you get poured out by Judge or Jury without recovery, or that the defendant is broke by the time of trial. For bigger cases, you’re also carrying on that risk / lack of payment for years as death / catastrophic cases typically take 2-3 years to resolve.

So yes, besides the reason Boosie mentioned, a larger recovery is justified.
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 12:17 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13385 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:25 pm to
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These frickers sent the check to the address of the sold house, even though they asked for the new address at cancelation


You underestimate how much women that work in title attorney and insurance offices drink on the daily. Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to incompetence.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11112 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:29 pm to
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If they truly deserved $500k, why did the insurer only offer $50k before the lawyer got involved? So the lawyer brought an additional $450k to the case and gets a percentage for doing so. And your gripe is that he charged a fee on the value he brought to the case that the insurer refused to pay before he got involved?


The lawyer didn’t bring shite. The threat of drawn out litigation and cost encourages the carriers to settle regardless of whether the claim is worry of that payout or not.

I saw a billboard in Monroe this weekend where Morgan and Morgan won a 120 million dollar case against an insurance company. Is the intent of insurance to indemnify? Tell me how 120 million is making someone whole?
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11112 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:30 pm to
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Lawyers working on contingency are fronting expenses such as experts, court costs, etc before any money is recovered. You’re also taking on a risk that you get poured out by Judge or Jury without recovery, or that the defendant is broke by the time of trial. For bigger cases, you’re also carrying on that risk / lack of payment for years as death / catastrophic cases typically take 2-3 years to resolve.


How weird is it to justify injury attorneys exorbitant fees but complain about insurance company profits.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84472 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:34 pm to
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The lawyer didn’t bring shite. The threat of drawn out litigation and cost encourages the carriers to settle regardless of whether the claim is worry of that payout or not


Your premise is that the claim was truly worth $500k to begin with.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
176033 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:37 pm to
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Your premise is that the claim was truly worth $500k to begin with.


Because thanks to you it now is.
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