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re: Alleged video of Ahmaud Arbery shooting leaks

Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8745 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:29 pm to
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Because he is wearing knee length shorts and a belt

My assumption is people dont wear that to jog outside. Whether it be black people, white people, hispanic people, etc


You'd be wrong. You just would. It may not be the most practical or normal practice, but people do.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:29 pm to
For sure, but if you are going to have such strong convictions like he does you should be able to at least begin to answer that question.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Of course not, but the information would still get released and made available.
Before a grand jury even sees it?


Absolutely. If the lawyer for these baws has information and isn't leaking it then he should be fired, imo. The opinions of potential jurors are being formed and hardened now.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8745 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:32 pm to
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I just dont really get the relevance to dig for that right now so hard like some want to do. It appears, at least on twitter, that is pretty much the only reason this case seems to be gathering attention for many people


This case has been around for a little while now. It didn't' just happen.

At the local level, it absolutely appears they were trying to make it disappear, in large part due to the fathers connections.

It's only starting to get some traction because the family has been pushing for an outside group to come in and investigate, plus with the video being released it's finally getting national attention.

ETA:

Also, in a lot of cases, information and perps usually aren't sat on. When the police act quickly are show signs of interest in the case, people are usually satisfied. In this case, it's pretty clear the good ole boy network was in full swing.

This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 1:33 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108178 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:33 pm to
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You'd be wrong. You just would. It may not be the most practical or normal practice, but people do.
You are telling me I am wrong while your post tells me I am right

You are admitting it would def be the exception for someone to workout in knee length shirts and a belt. So in fact, it’s smart if one has to make an assumption one way or thee other the safe assumption is he wasn’t working out

Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38365 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

It seems strange its pretty consistent only certain ones make 17 pages here while most go unnoticed


Most murders are pretty routine, no?

This doesn’t fit that bill at all
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87178 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:34 pm to
Honestly, if BLM didn’t get caught up in trying so hard to defend people like Brown and Sterling, people would be much more supportive overall. And when situations like this happen that, on the surface, look very much like it could be triggered by race, people would be more willing to listen. But because they chose these terrible situations that had false narratives from the start, people are more likely to be skeptical both of them and murders like this.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
34748 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:36 pm to
frick those 2 fatass hicks. They are about to be squealing like a pig in prison.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

At the local level, it absolutely appears they were trying to make it disappear, in large part due to the fathers connections.


This is more from his connections and less to do with racism imo. Police protect their own of every color. Regardless, if this is true everyone involved needs to be prosecuted because it’s fricked up.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32980 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:39 pm to
Agreed. Philando castille should have been their main focus. Not Michael Brown.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8745 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:40 pm to
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You are telling me I am wrong while your post tells me I am right


Oh, I forgot who I was talking to.

quote:

You are admitting it would def be the exception for someone to workout in knee length shirts and a belt.


No, I would never attempt to put a number on it. What I implied was that the more people wouldn't, but many absolutely do. Some people don't care about that type of stuff.

I even alluded earlier to it in this thread, at the gym I attend there is a group of guys who come in after work, in their work clothes construction type gear and work out and run. I've forgotten my change of clothes sometimes and just worked out in what I had, even in just my socks.

If I saw a guy jogging in boots, I wouldn't be surprised or thrown off.

quote:

So in fact, it’s smart if one has to make an assumption one way or thee other the safe assumption is he wasn’t working out



Also no
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108178 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:42 pm to
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Also no
if you are forced to make a guess if someone is working out or not, and you only have one guess, and that person is wearing knee length shorts and a belt, your guess is either yes or no. What’s your guess?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171950 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

Honestly, if BLM didn’t get caught up in trying so hard to defend people like Brown and Sterling, people would be much more supportive overall. And when situations like this happen that, on the surface, look very much like it could be triggered by race, people would be more willing to listen. But because they chose these terrible situations that had false narratives from the start, people are more likely to be skeptical both of them and murders like this.



This is what I was getting at earlier, and I can definitely agree with the rest of it as well. Trayvon killed by a "white Hispanic" and the "if I had a son" comments seemed to really start it or at least kick it up a ton of notches.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:45 pm to
It also doesn’t matter if he was running after illegally trespassing.

There is no law that says you can’t run from random people. You shouldn’t have to stop for anyone just because they have a gun. People who advocate for liberty should understand this the most.
Posted by LSU40
Vicksburge, MS
Member since Oct 2007
2253 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:45 pm to
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quote: Sure am, you still a dumb arse. You're the one who said this: quote: Where did this guy Arbery live? Was he normally jogging in this neighborhood, what kind of neighborhood was this? Houses next to each other, spread out, mixed area of people, low medium or high income? As if any of that is justification for murder.


I never said or wrote they were justified. That was instantly assumed by you and a couple others.
In fact I never gave an opinion till I replied to TH03. My entire point of my question was to show or understand is this happened because of his skin color. Hell the lady that called 911 gave the impression she was scared to see a black man.
Got to admit it is kinda funny how stupid some people are on this board. The mind readers are the best though.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30573 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:46 pm to
Morons think, just because they can carry, they now can be law and order.

i continue to tell you rednecks, you cannot just shoot people, because they walked on your land, turned around in ur drive way, etc.

1 day you will actually learn the laws of concealed and carry, stand your ground, and castle doctrine. But hey, continue thinking you can just shoot people who look suspicious.
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
24673 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:46 pm to
I just have a really hard time believing that these guys would shoot the man simply because of race. If their intentions were that sinister, why do it in broad daylight in the middle of a neighborhood? There are really only two scenarios:

- He was casing houses or was caught burglarizing or trying to break in
- He was jogging or passing through the neighborhood and was mistaken as a burglar

In either scenario, the guy filming and the two guys in the truck were intent on apprehending him. Instead of surrendering or just running away, he decided to fight some dudes with guns and got shot.

So what will happen to them? This is oddly similar to Treyvon Martin except we have video of the altercation. If these guys get off like Zimmerman did, we are going to see some of the worst retaliation / protests. If either scenario above is what happened, what, if anything can these guys be charged with?

This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 1:48 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:48 pm to
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In either scenario, the guy filming and the two guys in the truck were intent on apprehending him. Instead of surrendering or just running away, he decided to fight some dudes with guns and got shot.


Are you serious? Why should he have to stop for these two morons. Are you ok with random citizens with guns stopping you to ask you what you are doing?

Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26701 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:49 pm to
Sorry I haven't read the whole thread but was the guy that was killed the real burglar?

Did he live in the neighborhood where he was jogging?

Did the person filming know the person with the shotgun?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171950 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Instead of surrendering or just running away, he decided to fight some dudes with guns and got shot.


He has no obligation to surrender to a normal citizen (absurd) or run away, and he got shot before fighting back.
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