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re: Alex Jones is on the hook for nearly $1 billion dollars to Sandy Hook families

Posted on 10/13/22 at 2:29 am to
Posted by CovingtonTigre
In your head Werder
Member since Mar 2021
1482 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 2:29 am to
This guy said parents who lost their children were paid actors.

You can what about Faucci & big media all u want but the lack of empathy for the people Jones hurt is astounding
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 2:34 am to
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If a person can be sued and lose for saying inane bullshiat… how do shows about Bigfoot, ufos, aliens, ghosts, etc survive? How does any opinion show? How did him saying stupid shiat monetarily damage victims?


This thread lacks so much knowledge about the legal system, yet has no problems criticizing it it’s a fun read
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 4:07 am to
This thread is a shitshow, shocker
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 4:10 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71159 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 5:17 am to
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If this is what you chalk his actions up to, you might want to get some help or study the facts a bit more


It doesn't matter what his actions were. He made money off peddling his conspiracy theories? Okay. Whatever. I already stated that I think the guy is trash and that his words were absolutely terrible. I never once argued that he shouldn't be forced to pay for all that's happened over the past 10 years in regards to his thoughts on Sandy Hook. However, forcing him to pay almost $1 billion is just as over the top as he is.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
11295 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 5:36 am to
Ah well I saw a glimpse of some kind of trial. Could theoretically be the case. But no I get the impression it was just a full trial. Someone below says Connecticut's unfair trade practices law.

I mean I don't know what the elements are, again. And I don't know whether he or someone on his behalf was genuinely harassing a bunch of parents or what, though that seems actionable for that act, not for him holding certain beliefs or even profiting off them. If the idea is someone holds a wild conspiracy theory opinion, a nasty opinion, speculates rampantly, or even makes money off any of that, I don't know where any of that is an unfair trade practice or is in any way actionable by anyone, including these poor parents. Harassment might be different, but that would seem to be its own issue. Otherwise, this says we're allowed to sue people for speech we don't like, and that's a MASSIVE problem.
Posted by SagginInRefelct
Member since Oct 2022
77 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 6:30 am to
He could have been sloppy drunk and facetiming living while shooting the kids himself, and the award wouldn't be a billion.

This is stupid and was done simply as an attack on free speech.
Think of the legal president. Isn't he considered a journalist and/or a member of the press?
Trump should be able to sue every single news source in America for printing a word that wasn't true about him.
Hell make a trillion
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10861 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 6:33 am to
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It doesn't matter what his actions were.


It does, actually.

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However, forcing him to pay almost $1 billion is just as over the top as he is.


Meh. Ask the families who had to move across the country or otherwise deal with death threats and harassment that his ‘actions’ inspired. And it’s not like he said one thing and moved on - it’s been a 20 year crusade for him.
Posted by Puddenn32
In da LP
Member since Oct 2018
732 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 6:42 am to
sooooo basically nothing then.... none of the people are going to get anything. sure let me pull out my Billion dollar suit case and pay all you people.......
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71159 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:25 am to
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Ask the families who had to move across the country or otherwise deal with death threats and harassment that his ‘actions’ inspired.


Why? All they would tell me is that they deserve the money the judge ordered Alex Jones to pay them. Not exactly an unbiased source.

I fundamentally disagree with the monetary value the judge placed on their suffering. No parent of a Sandy Hook victim will change my mind.

I agree financial compensation is warranted. But $1 billion? Get outta here.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 7:28 am
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10861 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:26 am to
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Why? All they would tell me is that they deserve the money the judge ordered Alex Jones to pay them. Not exactly an unbiased source.

I fundamentally disagree with the monetary value the judge placed on their suffering. No parent of a Sandy Hook victim will change my mind.

I agree financial compensation is warranted. But $1 billion? Get outta her


We can debate the merits of the $1B settlement. Your right number might be different than mine, and both of ours might be different than the collective victims.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:29 am to
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I fundamentally disagree with the monetary value the judge placed on their suffering.
Can you explain your reasoning?

"$1 billion is a lot of money" is really all I've seen so far from people while having no true knowledge of the process.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:30 am to
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none of the people are going to get anything
Why not?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:32 am to
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sooooo basically nothing then.... none of the people are going to get anything.
They almost certainly will get something. It will most likely take years of cat and mouse games to get it, but they will get something. Judgments aren’t all or nothing events. Whatever portion of the judgments get upheld on appeal will likely be collected, in part, through bankruptcy proceedings.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 9:33 am
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
4981 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:33 am to
That shite was fake.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:38 am to
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I fundamentally disagree with the monetary value the judge placed on their suffering.
It was a jury and i agree that it is a pretty difficult number to justify, especially since it allegedly is compensatory only. I think it gets reduced on appeal. Maybe even tossed and a new trial ordered.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:45 am to
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You can what about Faucci & big media all u want but the lack of empathy for the people Jones hurt is astounding


Oh please, Fauci told people that if people wanted to visit their dying grandma in the hospital and then do a funeral for them, that you’re trying to kill grandma. But hey, if you were one of the elites like John Lewis, then Fauci says this is fine because your grandmother was worthless and this man actually had a life worth celebrating:



The cruelty was absolutely sick. Granted if Fauci ever goes to trial, he should be publicly hung behind the courthouse within the hour of his conviction.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71159 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:34 pm to
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Can you explain your reasoning?


I can. There are a two reasons for this logic.

1) It's absolutely laughable that a jury expects this man to pay the families of the victims a collective $1 billion when Alex Jones has never and will never have that much to give them.

2) It sets a dangerous precedent. Sure, very few people will weep for Alex Jones but this is a slippery slope that might be exploited in the future. People will be taken for more than they have for lesser offenses and it will destroy them.

Obviously the response would be that people shouldn't engage in such behavior. However, they will always do this. Today it might be a shite talker like Alex Jones but tomorrow it might be a random John or Jane Doe who let their emotions get the better of them and talked too much shite. Do we really want these kinds of frivolous verdicts to enter into our justice system?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62081 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 7:24 pm to
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He knowingly spread outright lies claiming parent's dead children never existed. It's a little more than "things people didn't like."


And the MSN knowingly lies all the time causing harm and death because of it. Do I need to remind you how they pushed the faux covid narrative, pushed faux Russian Collusion and enraged people pushing the BLM crap!
This post was edited on 10/15/22 at 7:25 pm
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17430 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 7:31 pm to
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And the MSN knowingly lies all the time causing harm and death because of it. Do I need to remind you how they pushed the faux covid narrative, pushed faux Russian Collusion and enraged people pushing the BLM crap!



I don't really care about Jones but this is straight up true. Let's not forget the media was directly responsible for getting those 5 cops murdered in Dallas. They should've been hung for that
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19271 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 7:35 pm to
Oh well
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