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re: Alex Jones is on the hook for nearly $1 billion dollars to Sandy Hook families

Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:22 pm to
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Y’all have adopted this victim shite and are SPRINTING with it



The President last month labelled 74 million Americans as enemies of the state. They hired 83,000 IRS agents. If you don't think they're coming after you, then you aren't paying attention.
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:22 pm to
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how much of the judgment was punitive damages?



Considering mental anguish and such is punitive

What were his compensatory damages? Really nothing.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:22 pm to
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You can stop your obfuscation any time now.


Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:23 pm to
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Additionally, these judgments are also against his companies, not just him personally. He won’t be able to use bankruptcy to avoid the judgments entirely and most likely will be required to liquidate significant assets to satisfy creditors if he tries bankruptcy.


It's better if it is against those companies IMO. What assets do those companies own? If Alex was smart, those companies were just a pass-through for protection. Run them as they normally would to avoid the "piercing of the corporate veil" as it is called but make them worthless otherwise. It's a fairly common practice.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:23 pm to
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Considering mental anguish and such is punitive What were his compensatory damages? Really nothing.
sounds like you know your stuff
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:24 pm to
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Over the past 9 years or whatever, how much revenue do you think jones received due at least in part to his SH takes?



Maybe like 5 or 6 million tops.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:24 pm to
You are intentionally drawing attention away from this judgement and it’s broad impact by doubling down on your stupid jury of his peers argument.

You know what the frick you’re doing so quit acting like you don’t, comrade.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:25 pm to
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If Alex was smart, those companies were just a pass-through for protection. Run them as they normally would to avoid the "piercing of the corporate veil" as it is called but make them worthless otherwise. It's a fairly common practice.
They don’t have to pierce the corporate veil. They have judgements against the companies and Alex. I’m sure with joint and several liability.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:25 pm to
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The President last month labelled 74 million Americans as enemies of the state. They hired 83,000 IRS agents. If you don't think they're coming after you, then you aren't paying attention.




I thought we are all going to be nuked by then? So why do you care?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:28 pm to
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They don’t have to pierce the corporate veil. They have judgements against the companies


I understand. I am saying hopefully those companies are worthless already and were merely passthroughs. Bankrupt them and move on.

I was sued once for a flip house I did. The LLC I did the flip through owned nothing and was worthless. My attorney asked me why am I even paying him. He said to take the default judgment and then close the LLC.

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and Alex. I’m sure with joint and several liability.


And if against him personally again hopefully he had his personal NW tied up in his estate.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 4:30 pm
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:29 pm to
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You are intentionally drawing attention away from this judgement and it’s broad impact by doubling down on your stupid jury of his peers argument.

You know what the frick you’re doing so quit acting like you don’t, comrade.


You mean my "argument" that was explaining to you how civil courts work? Or the one asking one of your echoes in here what system they would prefer instead? Since earlier(and still inferred) you seem to be under the impression this lawsuit, trial, and judgement was carried out by some deep state plot.

And thats not how any of this works Sally
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 4:31 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:29 pm to
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Maybe like 5 or 6 million tops.


Based on some googling and testimony at this trial is appears that jones has probably generated revenue in the 400-500 million range over the past 9 years.

I doubt his SH content was only ~1% of the content produced in that timeframe.
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:29 pm to
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sounds like you know your stuff



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Standard of Conduct. In order for punitive or exemplary damages to be awarded, the evidence must reveal a reckless indifference to the rights of others or an intentional and wanton violation of those rights. The basic requirement to justify an award of punitive damages is described in terms of wanton and malicious injury, evil motive and violence. A plaintiff may recover punitive damages even if he does not specifically plead them in the body of the complaint or the claims for relief. Chapman Lumber, Inc. v. Clifford L. Tager, Conn. Super. 2005(LexisNexis 863).

The test for allowing punitive damages should not depend on the nature of the injury or the type of damage sustained, but on the nature of the consequences of the wrongful conduct involved. Am. Airlines, Inc. v. Nat’l Automatic Prod. Co., 477 A.2d 171 (Conn. Super. Ct. 1984). The purpose of punitive damages is to fully compensate plaintiffs for the harm that they have suffered. Berry v. Loieau, 614 A.2d 414 (Conn. 1992). As courts have uniformly held, no plaintiff has a right to punitive damages; the purpose of punitive damages is to vindicate the public interest, not that of a particular plaintiff. Freeman v. Alamo Mgmt. Co., 607 A.2d 370 (Conn. 1992).


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Punitive damages are limited to the costs of litigation, less taxable costs. Purcell v. Vogt, 2003 Conn. Super. (LexisNexis1339). However, there are statutory exceptions to the rule that punitive damages are limited to litigation expenses in excess of taxable costs. Freeman v. Alamo Mgmt. Co., 607 A.2d 370
(Conn.1991). For example, Conn. Gen. Stat. § 47a-46states that double damages are allowed in a civil action if the defendant has entered into the land, tenement or dwelling unit by force or after entry held the same by force or otherwise injured the party aggrieved in the manner described in § 47a-43.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:31 pm to
So how much of this award was punitive damages?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:31 pm to
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revenue in the 400-500 million range over the past 9 years.

I doubt his SH content was only ~1% of the content produced in that timeframe.




You asked how much he made. Not how much revenue he generated from it
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:31 pm to
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The way our government and big tech go out of their way to take down Alex Jones has to make you wonder why they’re so afraid of what he’s saying.


Or, Idk, maybe don’t publicly slander parents who had their kids murdered in a school shooting?
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:32 pm to
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So how much of this award was punitive damages?



Almost all of it

Just like his capped punitive damages in Texas

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The damages amount was far higher than that of a Texas jury’s determination in August, which slapped Jones with $45.2 million in punitive damages. The latest $965 million damages figure may be reduced, given the state’s limits on punitive damages, but it is an indication of the gravity that jurors placed on Jones’ actions and the impact it had on the mourning families.


https://deadline.com/2022/10/alex-jones-trial-sandy-hook-parents-1235085522/
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:33 pm to
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You asked how much he made. Not how much revenue he generated from it


Lie
Posted by NfamousPanda
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:33 pm to
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Or, Idk, maybe don’t publicly slander parents who had their kids murdered in a school shooting?



Or, IDK

.....hire lawyers dumb enough to forward all your incriminating text messages to the defense

Or, IDK

....Wrap yourself in a pretzel on the stand and get caught lying, then admit you knowingly made the sort of defamatory statements in question.


This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 4:34 pm
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