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re: Alcoholism: Why Is It A Disease?

Posted on 6/18/18 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by tigerdude3232
Member since Nov 2009
730 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 2:54 pm to
Is everyone arguing for alcoholism to be a disease an alcoholic or have an alcoholic close to them?
Posted by tigerdude3232
Member since Nov 2009
730 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 2:57 pm to
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Idiotic post deserves no real response. I won't take the bait, other than to say my dad devoted much of his life to recovery and getting well, while helping others to do the
same. It took guts and determination, plus help.


Sorry your dad had to spend so much time and effort not being drunk but that still means nothing in terms of it being a disease
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104357 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:02 pm to
It's a mental disorder with physical components. That's close enough to a disease for me. Like diabetes, you can do things to bring it on yourself, but also like diabetes, once you have it, you have to do things to bring it under control or suffer the consequences.

FWIW I have no dog in this fight. No one close to me is an alcoholic or addict, so I have no emotional attachment to the disease model. It just seems to fit as well as any other theory.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296791 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:05 pm to
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Is everyone arguing for alcoholism to be a disease an alcoholic or have an alcoholic close to them?


You mean people with actual experience with it? Unlike yourself?
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:14 pm to
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You mean people with actual experience with it? Unlike yourself?


Oh lord... are you one of those "you don't have experience with it so your opinion doesn't count" people?
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:17 pm to
As opposed to "I read about it once so I'm confident sharing my highly educated opinion?"
Posted by tigerdude3232
Member since Nov 2009
730 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:17 pm to
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quote:
Is everyone arguing for alcoholism to be a disease an alcoholic or have an alcoholic close to them?


You mean people with actual experience with it? Unlike yourself?


No ask in if I was on the street with nothing, I'd say it was the governments job to take care of me too.....

you know as in an example or how people in the situation make it seem far worse and far more important than it may actually be.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:19 pm to
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he literally barely gets his tongue wet off of two beers, what a waste.
Posted by tigerdude3232
Member since Nov 2009
730 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:20 pm to
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As opposed to "I read about it once so I'm confident sharing my highly educated opinion?"


I'm sorry I don't want drunk losers telling me they have a disease just like my grandma with cancer because they need something to help them feel better about themselves.....
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:21 pm to
That was always my thought as well. Who the hell drinks a beer like that?

Sandman used to shotgun them for real.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:22 pm to
Then why do you keep coming back?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296791 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:23 pm to
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No ask in if I was on the street with nothing, I'd say it was the governments job to take care of me too.....


No one understands that gibberish
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:23 pm to
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As opposed to "I read about it once so I'm confident sharing my highly educated opinion?"


no, more like the "you don't have to experience something to form an opinion on it."

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296791 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

you don't have experience with it so your opinion doesn't count" people?


You are too, you just don't understand it yet

Experience >. Opinionated a-hole
Posted by tigerdude3232
Member since Nov 2009
730 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:27 pm to
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Then why do you keep coming back?


To make sure other people know its OK to call yall out for your bullshite and not feel like they may be ostracized for speaking out again the leaches of society.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:27 pm to
I was going to reply but Roger already covered it. Experience is what counts.
Posted by tigerdude3232
Member since Nov 2009
730 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

quote:
No ask in if I was on the street with nothing, I'd say it was the governments job to take care of me too.....


No one understands that gibberish



are you special?

no, as in if I......
sorry your brain can't work out puzzles
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:29 pm to
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To make sure other people know its OK to call yall out for your bullshite and not feel like they may be ostracized for speaking out again the leaches of society.


How do you feel like you're doing in this calling of yours?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296791 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:30 pm to
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you don't have to experience something to form an opinion on it."


Theoretical experts, never afraid to voice their strong and incorrect opinion on social media for the world to see.

Knowledge and experience are kind of important if you want to be right.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 3:32 pm
Posted by tigerdude3232
Member since Nov 2009
730 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:31 pm to
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quote:
you don't have experience with it so your opinion doesn't count" people?


You are too, you just don't understand it yet

Experience >. Opinionated a-hole


self proclaimed addict, can't control impulses is greater than just opinionated a-hole or is greater than anyone who isn't a self diagnosed addict? I think you meant, unless you are an addict and think it's a disease, your opinion is less than mine. I mean that's how you are portraying yourself.
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