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re: Alabama food stamp drops 85%....cant be posted enough
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:56 am to Dont_Call_Me_RAY
Posted on 6/6/17 at 8:56 am to Dont_Call_Me_RAY
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“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.” ~B. Franklin
Exactly - Until we stop rewarding bad behavior and punishing good behavior the cycle will continue.
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:02 am to GeeOH
This one is tough for me. I hate the handout system but from an economic view point, it's not the worst handout out there.
USDA estimates that for every $5 spent on SNAP generates $9 in economic activity. People that receive SNAP benefits spend it back into the system almost immediately whereas if the government gave most people $150 per month, it would sit in the bank for a while.
It's similar to US Military spending...the expense is enormous, but a huge % of that spending is done domestically and is a big economic driver.
SNAP should be used as an incentive for fiscal responsibility and not as a reason to grow the size of your family. Including the work requirements and capping the benefit, regardless of # of dependents, would go a long way to fixing it.
USDA estimates that for every $5 spent on SNAP generates $9 in economic activity. People that receive SNAP benefits spend it back into the system almost immediately whereas if the government gave most people $150 per month, it would sit in the bank for a while.
It's similar to US Military spending...the expense is enormous, but a huge % of that spending is done domestically and is a big economic driver.
SNAP should be used as an incentive for fiscal responsibility and not as a reason to grow the size of your family. Including the work requirements and capping the benefit, regardless of # of dependents, would go a long way to fixing it.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:12 am to Palmetto08
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Statewide, the number of able-bodied adults receiving food stamps has fallen by almost 35,000 people since Jan. 1, 2016. Each recipient receives about $126 a month in benefits.
Some quick math: that's saving the state $4.4 million a month or $53 million annually. That's a hell of a start.
Can we also address the corporate welfare while we are at it? frick, may as well take this to the crazy poli board but that place scares me.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:12 am to GeeOH
The fact that you can receive the benefit without having any dependents is asinine in itself
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:16 am to Twenty 49
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If this catches on, keep an eye on your Wal-Mart stock.
I'm digging the fear mongering, baw.
Wal-Mart is the epitome of the "lowest common denominator" of American culture and, in many ways, may have driven this phenomenon over the past 30 to 35 years.
But - if you're suggesting that inelastic demand (food) may go down because of decreased subsidies - I expect that the effect will not be terribly dramatic, certainly not 4% of Wal-Mart revenue, probably not even 1%.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 9:16 am
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:16 am to FISH N TIGER
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Because it saves money to do it that way Duh!!!, and the contract holders have to hire people just like the Gov would and pay their insurance as well as maintain equipment. You really should think before you post crap like this.
Uuuuum, if you are already paying because a person is unemployed, they could work for free, or remove them from the govt tit.....either way, you have to factor in the savings from the govt side, which means, it NOT cheaper to contract it out.
It a shame idiots like you don't think we should benefit from paying ABLE BODIED men and women, by putting their arse to work. You are part of the problem.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:18 am to finchmeister08
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:18 am to Dire Wolf
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That is kind of a shame since they are probably the ones that really need food stamps when the only job is Walmart down the interstate
So if you choose to live in a rural setting then we need to foot your bills because there is little opportunity to work. Uh, no..figure it out, or move....they didn't say no food stamps, they said work requirement for food stamps....sit in your house and stuff envelopes or dial for dollars with some home based company. It is 2017....the world is connected even in rural areas. Get this bleeding heart liberal shite out of here. We can't afford it.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:19 am to Anonymous95
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for every $5 spent on SNAP generates $9 in economic activity.
The $5 has to be taken from taxpayers or borrowed (with interest). Anyone who thinks that the $0.75 or so taxation return on a $5 expenditure is a good return must work for a government agency.
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USDA estimates
Ah. That explains it. Not only a government agency, but the one that makes a good "living" administering the SNAP program. Totally unbiased and credible.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:20 am to BACONisMEATcandy
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Not if you take the SNAP budget and use it to fund the said jobs. Would be a net gain, without a doubt.
Thank you...that guy thinks he has business sense, except he forgets to factor in ALL factors
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:24 am to GenesChin
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Now it is time to start looking at whether crime goes up in those counties
You should know that many able BODIED recipients don't always spend it at Wal-Mart. They sell the cards for less than value and get cash, usually in the drug arena
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:25 am to GeeOH
Hell yeah $20 cash will get you $50 in groceries
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:25 am to GeeOH
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Our freaking govment gives out contracts to have the grass cut on interstate.....instead of owning equipment and giving jobs to able men.
Between food stamp recipients (who aren't holding down other jobs or have legit disability) and inmates (again, excluding those with legit health issues) there are plenty of people who need to get to work.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:25 am to BigPerm30
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Can we also address the corporate welfare while we are at it?
The problem is that we have an outdated taxation plan that has been over-incentivised. The enitre US personal and corporate tax code needs to be simplified and re-written. It won't happen because most people are too stupid and would see lower tax corporate tax rates as "pro-business", that and major corps like incentives and the politicians like the kickbacks.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:26 am to Jaydeaux
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First job out of LSU i worked for the OFS. I was vilified for trying to hold people accountable to receive benefits. I would bust people all the time in their silly simple lies and then they would call and complain. I would get chewed out and have to give them another interview so they could run a different story. People in LA have the system down and just teach their kids how to use it. People that actually need help and dont know how to lie cant get benefits.
I was thinking that LA already has work requirements, on paper, but I guess it's all about how it's enforced.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:27 am to GeeOH
quote:This. Those people rarely use their benefits for food. They sell them for like 60-75 cents on the dollar for personal use.
You should know that many able BODIED recipients don't always spend it at Wal-Mart. They sell the cards for less than value and get cash, usually in the drug arena
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:29 am to Havoc
When someone with an 8th grade education can, from memory, list their medications and reason for each of them you are talking to a system abuser 9/10.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:30 am to MontyFranklyn
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This. Those people rarely use their benefits for food. They sell them for like 60-75 cents on the dollar for personal use.
Yep. I see this actually help.lower drug use in those people who give up the benifits
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:39 am to GumboDave
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"Each recipient receives about $126 a month in benefits."
Are we really complaining about $126 a month? I am anti-welfare, but this is such a small amount of money.
Guarantee all of you received a bigger handout weekly from your parents
GFY, this program took able bodied individuals off the government teet to the tune of 4.4 Mil. Is that such a small amount? How many people, that actually need the money, do you think that could help?
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:39 am to Lawyered
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let them pick up trash on the highway or do something productive
Hell, they can start picking up trash in their own neighborhoods. The neutral grounds look like a garbage truck exploded.
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