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AI is killing software developer jobs

Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:03 pm
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:03 pm
Its also killing the “coding boot camps” that were promoted as an affordable alternative to college.

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Compared with five years ago, the number of active job postings for software developers has dropped 56 percent, according to data compiled by CompTIA. For inexperienced developers, the plunge is an even worse 67 percent.

I would say this is the worst environment for entry-level jobs in tech, period, that I’ve seen in 25 years,” said Venky Ganesan, a partner at the venture capital firm Menlo Ventures.

For years, the career advice from everyone who mattered — the Apple chief executive Tim Cook, your mother — was “learn to code.” It felt like an immutable equation: Coding skills + hard work = job.

Now the math doesn’t look so simple.

Since their emergence in the mid-2010s, intensive courses in basic coding skills have been praised as a quick route to a high-paying career, especially for people who didn’t graduate from college. President Barack Obama made them part of his jobs initiative, nonprofits set them up to propel people of diverse backgrounds into tech careers, and universities from Harvard to Berkeley offered their own versions.

And they worked. In a 2020 survey of 3,000 boot camp graduates by CourseReport, 79 percent of respondents said the courses had helped them land a job in tech, with an average salary increase of 56 percent.

But the industry pulled back from hiring at the same time that new A.I. coding tools were starting to become mainstream. In 2022, Google’s A.I. team, DeepMind, reported that it had tested its A.I. model AlphaCode in coding competitions, and that it was as good as “a novice programmer with a few months to a year of training.”

It took a few more years, but the tools available to a typical programmer have since improved markedly. This September, OpenAI released a new version of ChatGPT. It computes answers in a way that is different from previous models and may be even better at writing code. Tools like AlphaCode from Google and Copilot from GitHub generate snippets of code for specific purposes, testing or optimizing existing code and finding bugs.

The real proof is among developers: About 60 percent of 65,000 developers surveyed in May by StackOverflow, a software developer community, said they had used A.I. coding tools this year. .


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Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16998 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:06 pm to
Hate to see it
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23406 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:07 pm to
Learn to weld
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
76880 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:07 pm to
You're better off being a hardware tech knowing how to build the server racks and install the cables and switches.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 4:13 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
68249 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:07 pm to
Learn to mine?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
125806 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:08 pm to
Plenty of oilfield jobs available
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22861 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:09 pm to
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The real proof is among developers: About 60 percent of 65,000 developers surveyed in May by StackOverflow, a software developer community, said they had used A.I. coding tools this year.


That's a little misleading IMO. Using AI as a tool is not near the same as having AI write an entire system for you or not being able to function in your role without AI. AI is not perfect either. It can and does spit out code that doesn't actually work.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 3:12 pm
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2605 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:09 pm to
Yeah this is going to be a problem for a lot of people shitposting on this site all day

Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53310 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:10 pm to
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Hate to see it


Did an entry-level tech worker steal your boyfriend or something?
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11996 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:10 pm to
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Learn to weld


You ever seen a robot weld, they are pretty damn good at it.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23406 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

You ever seen a robot weld, they are pretty damn good at it.

Learn to plumber?
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
19841 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:28 pm to
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Learn to plumber?


AI’s gonna solve plumbing issues with a real life Vapoorize.
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
2498 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:30 pm to
Humanities are the future. Need people who know how to think like humans. Time is a flat circle.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:57 pm to
People will have to put their foot down on AI. It's called AI for a reason - it's there to replace humans.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6014 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:00 pm to
ITT Tech is screwed, yo
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
13050 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:04 pm to
Phuck and I just learned to code after getting laid off from my federal government job.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282364 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:07 pm to


Its happening.
Posted by ThatBaw
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2023
304 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:14 pm to
Graduated in Software Engineering in 2023. I'd say this is correlation, not causation. It also happens to coincide with a natural decline following a massive hiring and layoff parabola which I think has more to do with a few other things.

Mainly, covid jobs. Demand for software following covid massively boosted demand.

Secondly, supply. Supply boosted following covid since many with a lack of job security during the pandemic made the switch to tech. I know of a few personally who did so. Market is very saturated

Thirdly, economy has been in turmoil for 4 years. Not surprising to me that tech jobs are affected.

You can not really use AI for developing on its own merits. You have to have someone with knowledge to look over anything it produces anyways. I don't see AI completely replacing a real human developer for many years.
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
4206 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:51 pm to
Always a need for more fluffers
Posted by kennypowers
AR
Member since Mar 2009
591 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:46 pm to
Kind of a shite take. AI is simply a tool in a good software developers toolkit. If you've ever worked with an Indian developer you'd know that asking for something and getting the outcome you're looking for is not always the same thing. It's similar to AI in that knowing HOW to ask the question is just as important as the question at hand. AI is good at giving you a starting place but it's nowhere good enough(yet) to replace a good developer.

The time is coming...but we aren't there yet.
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