Started By
Message

re: Ahmaud Arbery’s killers sentenced to life in prison, two with no chance of parole

Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:35 am to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38718 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:35 am to
Wouldn't be the first time a legislature wrote a stupidly vague law.

That's the way this law has been interpretted in GA for years/decades.

A court isn't going to overturn that much precedence. The legislature is going to have to come in and rewrite the law.
Posted by SMD
Member since Sep 2010
5538 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:36 am to
Watching u melt in these threads is awesome. Keep it up sugar tits
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
104291 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:37 am to
Oh look, one of my Rant stalkers.

And I don't think you know the definition of the word.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282948 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Why should they have received parole?


Do most people who commit murder in GA get parole?



What makes this case worse than Wayne Williams?
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 9:38 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452321 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:38 am to
quote:

shite the average prison sentence for murder in GA is about 10 years.

Likely mostly plea deals. They refused all plea deals and forced a trial. At that point, the sentence is either death or mandatory life (with a slight chance of parole).

quote:

With a chance of parole.

They still have to serve 30 years.

One guy did get the chance for parole.

The elder will die before 30 years is up, so it's kind of irrelevant.

The younger was convicted of felony murder and malice murder. He showed no remorse. He's not getting parole.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
104291 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Do most people who commit murder in GA get parole?

The answer is yes.


Please provide the statistics for that, thanks.

quote:

What makes this case worse than Wayne Williams?


He was sentenced to two consecutive (not concurrent) life sentences for two murders (they were unable to charge him with the 18+ others). Sounds like they provided a sentence that was appropriate for the charges they could bring.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38718 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:39 am to
quote:

shite the average prison sentence for murder in GA is about 10 years.


Link?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Wouldn't be the first time a legislature wrote a stupidly vague law. That's the way this law has been interpretted in GA for years/decades. A court isn't going to overturn that much precedence. The legislature is going to have to come in and rewrite the law.


My point is how is the average citizen supposed to interpret these laws written like shite.

Are we expected to study case law for every situation we find ourselves in?

All this started because I said everything involved in this case is shite. The people and the laws.
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:41 am to
For starters even the dumbest hoodrats rarely record their crimes and brag about it while getting a buddy in local government to run interference for them.

They chose a high profile trial and got run over by the train they should have seen comming down the tracks.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452321 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Do most people who commit murder in GA get parole?

Felony or malice murder? I would think not.

2nd degree or manslaughter? Much more likely.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282948 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:42 am to
quote:

? I would think not.


Think not or know not?

shite, Wayne Williams can get paroled. you know, the serial killer who killed a bunch of kids.

This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 9:43 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452321 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Think not or know not?

Neither of us know.

Show me the stats on parole being given to felony or malice murder convictions after trial in GA.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452321 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:44 am to
quote:

shite, Wayne Williams can get paroled.

I imagine the laws have changed since 1982
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
25303 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:46 am to
quote:

no previous track record of gun violence

Honestly, if someone shoots and kills someone unjustly, it shouldn't matter if they had no previous record of gun violence. That's not bringing back the life of the person that was killed. Is taking one life not serious enough?

So all that should matter is if evidence shows that they killed a person unjustly. If so, I see no issue in them losing their freedom for life for unjustly taking a life.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282948 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Think not or know not?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Neither of us know.


There you go. That wasn't hard.

10 years served is sufficient for second degree, which it was in most States.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452321 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:48 am to
quote:

10 years served is sufficient for second degree,

But they weren't guilty of 2nd degree.

They are clearly guilty of a 1st degree murder.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
33209 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:50 am to
quote:

My point is how is the average citizen supposed to interpret these laws written like shite.


GA has since overhauled its citizens arrest law pretty yugely.

Hit "Current Version" at top. It's been signed/enacted.

GA rev. citizens arrest
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68358 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:51 am to
quote:

Likely mostly plea deals. They refused all plea deals and forced a trial. At that point, the sentence is either death or mandatory life (with a slight chance of parole).


Like that stupid realtor who raped the girl on camera with the dirty cop and refused a plea deal. If you roll the dice at trial and lose, you should expect the hammer.
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 9:53 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282948 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:52 am to

quote:

But they weren't guilty of 2nd degree.


GA doesn't have degrees, and premeditation does play a role in whether its first or second in most places.

They are definitely stupid fricks who deserve time in prison though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452321 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Like that stupid realtor who raped the girl on camera with the dirty cop and refused a plea deal. If you roll the dice at trial and lose, you should expect the judge to drop the hammer.

The judge didn't even have to drop the hammer. Life is automatic. The only discretion is potential parole.

I believe the prosecution has to seek the highest punishment (death), and they didn't in this case.
Jump to page
Page First 5 6 7 8 9 10
Jump to page
first pageprev pagePage 7 of 10Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram